Shopping for a Soulmate

The SMH reports that Wal-mart has dealt a blow to the lovelorn:

Wal-Mart has halted a program at one of its stores in Virginia to help single shoppers find love in its aisles, Associated Press reports.

Taking a cue from Wal-Mart stores in Germany, customers were encouraged to place a red bow on their shopping cart on Friday evenings to advertise their availability. “Flirt points” were set up around the store.

Customer Dale Firebaugh, 63, who had hoped to meet his match, said he was disappointed at the decision. “Where can someone over 40 who doesn’t smoke or drink or go to bars meet someone?”

Just before I moved to the US in 1996, I read Armistead Maupin’s Tales of the City and was amused at the reaction of new to towners in San Francisco who were shocked to find that supermarkets and laundrettes were pick up joints.

In the new millennium, Brisvegas is home to persistent urban myths about a Coles suspiciously close to Mark’s place where singles purportedly position bananas strategically in their trollies to signal availablility (and whether they’re into lerve or a bonk) and boys buy cat food (though they own no cat) and roma tomatoes (destined to rot in their fridges) to prove to that special chick in the checkout line that they’re snaggy.

I must admit my local Woolies at Bulimba, though I’ve observed no such deliberate dating behaviour, is becoming increasingly glammed up. Woe to the urbanette who goes shopping in her old trackies and uggies these cold winter nights.

Quite seriously, what’s wrong with meeting the love of your life, or the lust of one night, at a supermarket?

I mean, for a lot of us (not “all of us”), Methodist dances where John met Janette, arranged marriages, and the local Rotary Club nosh-up no longer cut it. We have online dating, sms flirt, speed dating, and workplaces with formal policies on office romances. In America, there are dedicated dating sites for Republicans (tagline: “sweethearts not bleeding hearts”), Catholic singles (helpfully, you can browse by diocese), incredibly fabulous and funky New Yorksters, lesbians who don’t look like any I’ve ever known and disabled folk. That’s of course to mention the less MA-rated options.

Where do you go to find a partner in the late modern world?


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213 responses to “Shopping for a Soulmate”

  1. Brownie

    If I wanted a partner, the blog would seem an ideal place for the pitch. I have always linked to
    http://supermodelpersonals.blogspot.com/
    and that’s how I would do it.
    ‘crabby aged ex-mod, hippie, punk with arthritis and a bad attitude, no longer wishes to provide lunch lust and laundry for any male, but very occasionally would like to share conversationally, the appreciation of various and divers performing arts. on the other hand, life is soooooooo much simpler alone.

  2. Brownie

    Trailer-park, meth whore, just out of jail for beating up my baby’s daddy, needs it NOW.
    You too can be a part of my downward spiral, and genuinely sick lifestyle.
    I’m looking for someone to go shoplifting with, and to accompany me to court appearances, and appointments with my probation officer.
    There’s a slight chance I will be confined to the house soon by an electronic bracelet, but that just means I’ll have more time for lovin’, baby.

  3. boynton

    I read this the other day and thought it was odd.
    Specifically when they talked about Hardware megastores as a place to meet a handyman? Hmm – I think I’ve only ever met gentlemen in the seniors age bracket at Bunnings among the herbacide.
    (Then again our musical taste might be similar.)

    Actually I had a better track record among the retro seekers at the mega opshop. (You can browse for hours reading odd books and there are comfortable chairs.) And walking the dog – although that may be getting to be as big an urban myth as the Coles Banana Strategy.

  4. Kim

    Brownie, I reckon you could make some dosh writing personals ads!

    Boynton, where’s the mega opshop? It sounds fab!

  5. Kim

    ps – Prisoner personals are big in The States too.

  6. Nabakov

    Even though basically it was a teethachingly cute flick, “4 Weddings and A Funeral” did make the point that libidos tend to blossom and flow during social theatre pieces like community hitching and ditching rituals – and where yer also dressed up to look real good while the booze flows like wine and you meet new people through semi-vouchable family and friends networks.

    ‘specially wakes which are rilly good for reminding members of the opposite sex that all parties concerned are equipped to keep life going one. I’m certainly looking forward to more mates dying so I can get my leg over. And vice-versa I hope. “In the midst of death, there is life, etc, etc…”

  7. Nic White

    My first response is that you have absolutely got to be kidding, but I guess it makes sense. It is a bit sad to see Walmart cashing in though, but I guess all companies already do that on V-day.

    Perhaps I should buy some bananas.

  8. Lefty Elitist

    Heheehe.

    Yes, weddings and wakes. If you cant score, it must have been yours.

    Not single these days, but IMHO the best bet is always cultivating friend networks and making an active effort to keep up with them. Someone always knows someone, who knows someone.

    Except in Brisbane, where, bacteriologically, everyone has slept with everyone already.

  9. liam hogan

    Seems to me gravatars are the blog equivalent of the banana in the trolley. Lets people know that, since you’re about and commenting, you’re in the mood either for a stoush™ or something more. Of course on recent threads we know all about that.
    Get yourselves some images, all you gravatar-deficient commenters.

  10. Francis Xavier Holden

    Kim – You forgot the Objectivists Ayn Rand Dating page.

    I notice that, jess of Launceston, Tasmania is number 3 on the newest 10 females advertising.

  11. Nic White

    Liam that would require effort :p

  12. Francis Xavier Holden

    I once sort of shared a house with a guy who if he was unpartnered that week would take a book down to the Botanical Gardens and without fail he picked up everytime. Seemed a bit weird to me but he had the stats to back him up. I saw them when he bought them home. They were all v. attractive (bookish) women. He wasn’t anything to write home about in the looks deprtament or the personality area either.

  13. Francis Xavier Holden

    Actually I had a better track record among the retro seekers at the mega opshop.

    So you are the retro they are seeking?

  14. Kim

    FXH, I’m guessing there isn’t much to do in Launceston.

  15. Nabakov

    And bands/multimedia projects. Even though I’m a plumpish solid citizen, halfway to my use by date by some yardsticks, I still dabble in arty-farty performance stuff, and yes being on stage still pulls the chicks. Anyone still pretending to be domesticated after 40 when they don’t have to be is basically born, and will die, one boring mofo.

    Now I hafta go and fool around with AV samples from Barbarella, Donald Rumsfeld, Zulu and Tarzan’s New York Adventure.

    ” A good many dramatic unknown unknows begin with tribal chanting in New York.”

  16. boynton

    Kim – it was the “Salvation Thrift Emporium” in inner city Melb that I lived near for years and years. It’s since changed its feel from Emporium to Store – but still mega.

    Looking back, I don’t think I was ever kool enough to be considered retro, FXH. (Mr FX Holden himself) Kitsch maybe.

  17. cs

    Even though I?Äôm a plumpish solid citizen, halfway to my use by date by some yardsticks, I still dabble in arty-farty performance stuff, and yes being on stage still pulls the chicks.

    And snores like a foghorn.

  18. Kim

    There should be more emporia, Boynton. Then jesses from Launceston wouldn’t have to turn to Ayn Rand for solace.

  19. Nabakov

    “And snores like a foghorn.”

    Hey, once I fall asleep it’s someone else’s problem.

    (cs, did you get the email I sent to the backpages email address? If not, contact the Fluteman for details)

  20. cs

    Hey, once I fall asleep it?Äôs someone else?Äôs problem.

    Better than an alarm clock, as the brain cells kick in.

    (No Nabs … and what? The Flutester is holding out? Noted.)

  21. Lefty Elitist

    Rise from you slumber,
    in unvanquishable number,
    Shake you chain to earth like dew,
    that in sleep had fallen on you
    ye are many, they are few.

  22. Lefty Elitist

    Bugger, didnt work. All gravitas and no gravatar.

  23. liam hogan

    It’s got to be moderated first, LE. It’s not like some suburban supermarket or Carry On film.

  24. Mark

    It’ll take a few days, Lefty E. They have to be given a rating as to how family-suitable or pornographic they are.

  25. Lefty Elitist

    Oh, its being ‘rated’. Here’s hoping for a conceded pass.

  26. Kim

    Who will be first to go for a bunch of bananas as a gravatar, given Liam’s earlier comment?

  27. liam hogan

    That’d either be a [G] rated gravatar, or an [R], depending on the postmodernism of the raters.
    Is an upraised banana simply a text?

  28. Kim

    A sign rather than a text?

    Btw – upturned bunch in the tray at the top of the trolley means “young single hottie looking for lerve” and downturned bunch means “young single hottie looking for sincere relationship”. Just in case Nic is serious.

  29. Kim

    To clarify, lerve in this instance signifies lovin’.

  30. Lefty Elitist

    Oh, ok.

    Well, in the mass democratic spirit of blogdom – which obviously I abhor as an elitist – I picked this one. I believe it captures l’ eau de elite gauche.

    http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/p/phillips/

  31. Kim

    Very suitable, Lefty E.

  32. Lefty Elitist

    Why, thank you Kim. I believe my views on your gravvy were stated drunkenly some weeks ago … and I stand by them sober!

  33. Kim

    Thank you, Lefty E! Merlot-less Monday, hey?

  34. liam hogan

    l?Äô eau de elite gauche

    Those’ll be the lefty elite waters you’ll be passing through your kidneys onto RWDBs, right?

  35. Mark

    On the said Coles, I’ve found the careful pondering of which colour chilli to select is an informal “flirt point” to use Wal-Mart’s term.

  36. Lefty Elitist

    Indeed Liam. I call it the trickle-down effect.

  37. Lefty Elitist

    Sadly, yes Kim – had a lecture to write for tomorrow. Merlot is my muse, not my plough.

    Or something….

  38. Kim

    Happy Byronic roving in the arms of academe, Lefty E!

    Or something….

    Night!

  39. Lefty Elitist

    Ok Kim night!

    shake your chains to earth like dew!

  40. Mary

    Neutral Bay Woolies in Sydney was meant to have the banana set-up too, about 10 years ago. This was sufficiently persistent that it made the light-n-fluffy section of SMH a few times (in the wired era, this corresponds to the right hand sidebar), so it probably started happening then even if prior to that there had just been false rumours.

  41. Mark

    I’ve had a few conference romances, Naomi. But they were all people from other cities so nothing ongoing transpired. The sexiness of the academic colloquuy!

  42. Luke

    I always found the supermarket to be a winner – with or without bananas.

  43. liam hogan

    Naomi, it’s good that you found your opposite at a history conference. It must have been a pretty amazing coincidence for two of you youngsters to have been there together.
    The idea of hooking up at most of the history conferences I’ve been to creeps me out. [shudder]

  44. Kate

    Nice story Naomi.

    I met Mr. Kate at the Newtown RSL. At an Alex Lloyd gig, back when he was actually OK. Alex Lloyd that is, not Mr. Kate, who has always been much better than OK. There were no bananas involved. He impressed me by mentioning a book he was reading (can’t remember which book though).

    Has anyone actually met a prospective amour at the shops? Or a bookstore? Or a cafe? I’ve only ever met boys at drinking establishments.

  45. liam hogan

    I know quite a few couples who’ve hooked up through the Labor Party. Some last but mostly they’re very combative relationships.

  46. Kate

    Liam, I can imagine…

  47. Mark

    or maybe just the desire to escape it and do something interesting – like have dinner and sex!

    Yeah, that too!

    Young sociologists are always sexy of course.

    The weirdest student pollie relationships were always those between Young Labor types and Liberals. I can’t think of any that lasted. But they were probably less combative than Laborites together because they no doubt had to lay down ground rules about arguing over politics.

    Kate, I have massive crushes on several bookshop employees. Does that count?

  48. liam hogan

    Also John Della Bosca and Belinda Neal. A match made in Sussex Street.

  49. Mark

    Ewwwww. I just started thinking about Latho sowing his “wild oats” when he decided he wanted an “open marriage”.

  50. Luke

    I met one Ms Luke at a Labor function – the WA election win. She was on the bar at the time, so we had ample opportunity to chat…turned out she was a Liberal voter though. Still, it lasted long enough to have a few good stoushes on the subject.

    I did date a Southern Baptist Republican girl from South Carolina for a year though….hmmmm, that’ll teach me to pick up at university outside the archaelogy department.

  51. Mark

    Is there a good way to meet fellow Popper fans with a view to lerve?

  52. Luke

    Popper?

  53. Mark

    Was she studying archaeology to find evidence for biblical events etc, Luke?

  54. Kate

    Since we’re talking about the AFP in another post, one of my exes now works for the AFP (met him at the pub too).

    This frightens me somewhat, not personally, but in a “I can’t believe he’s in the police force” kinda way.

  55. Luke

    Evidence? Factual support for Southern Baptist beliefs? You must be joking Mark.

    I did always have fun needling her about working on 12,000 year old archaeological sites, in an Earth that was only created 7,000 years ago.

  56. Kate

    Liam, duh, God put all that stuff there to test our faith, doncha know? There’s nothing inconsistent about it.

  57. Mark

    I was thinking of all those “we’ve found Noah’s Ark” type claims, Luke.

  58. Luke

    I did once point out that it was a bit hard for the world be created in 7 literal days, as the sun isn’t created until the fourth….she wasn’t a big fan of that line of questioning.

    Just imagine if I’d gotten started on old Ponitfex Maximus….she would have said I was of the devil.

  59. Lefty Elitist

    (*shudders*) Mark, please.. people are trying to discuss romance here….

    I first saw Ms Elitist while playing in my band. I spied her gorgeous self from the stage – she was with some other guy at the time – but I decided then and there she must and will be mine!

    So, outrageouisly, mid-song, I started declaring in Spanish that she was the most beautiful woman I had ever espied.

    This was translated, unbeknownst to me, by her Colombian friend. And the rest is history.

    Now we have a pretty little daughter. Borne of Spanish and song.

  60. Kate

    I meant Luke of course. Me lern how tu reed won dae.

  61. Luke

    Spanish and song? Geez, that knocks me into a cocked hat.

    All I have in the romance department is a take of whiskey, poor lighting and a lecherously raised right eyebrow.

  62. liam hogan

    Luke, try this:

    Si tu me dices ven,
    Lo dejo todo.
    Si tu me dices ven,
    Será todo para tí
    Mis momentos m√°s ocultos,
    tambien te los dare,
    Mis secretos que son pocos,
    ser√°n tuyos tambien,
    Si t√∫ me dices ven, todo cambiar√°.
    Si t√∫ me dices ven, habr√° felicidad…

  63. Lefty Elitist

    Que Lindo Liam…

    Or try this rather more direct approach:

    ‘Yo quiero mirar en tus ojos para siempre…..’

    Or try Latho’s open marriage line:

    “wanna climb the ladder of opportunity, baby?”

  64. Mark

    Ewwwww. I just don’t like to think of Latho as a sexual being.

  65. liam hogan

    I prefer Los Panchos, LE. Only the best South American cheese.

  66. Amanda

    I have some spanish: I don’t know how it is written but you say it: besse me mucho senor compacion esta noche. I like to get straight to the point.

    It hasn’t worked yet. I have nothing to contribute to this thread. Nothing.

  67. Lefty Elitist

    I know…. apologies..

    And forget I ever said ‘John and Janette in the pool room at yarralumla’.

  68. Luke

    Times like these you miss Hawkie, really.

  69. liam hogan

    Amanda, that line should work nicely, keep trying it. Reminds me of the Spanish version of ABBA’s Gimme Gimme Gimme A Man After Midnight:

    Dame, dame, dame amor esta noche…

    Which is needless to say much more direct than the English.

  70. Mark

    Amo, amas, amat.

    Latin love sonnets, anyone?

  71. Luke

    Nunc est bibendum.

  72. Zoe

    I met my husbang in the shed. Most convenient.

  73. harry

    One of my least successful non-pickup lines was at cocktail party.
    I picked up a nibbly and said ‘Small savoury pastry to bed with me tonight?’
    She looked at me askance. [which was a bit saucy]
    I explained “Volo-von cooshay avec moi, ses wa?” [for some reason in a Sean Connery accent]
    See? Wit!
    Unfortunately with a f#$@ in front. Yeah I know.

    “I met my husbang in the shed. Most convenient.”
    Well, it is nice to have all the tools in one place, Zoe.
    Oh. That’s right – you said he was bigger than me. Damn.

  74. liam hogan

    That’s terrible, harry. A pun worthy of Homercles.

  75. Russell Allen

    I’m was pretty sure that the banana pulling technique was a gay thing. It was only on Wednesday. My next door neighbour is raving queen and Coles NF used to be one of his favourite places to pull.

    Agree with FX’s comment about reading a book but it is all about positioning and of course not sounding like a donkey.

    Q: What are you reading?
    A: A book?
    Q: How is it it?
    A: Not very good
    Q: *walks off*

  76. dj

    I met my wife at a party to farewell a mutual friend of ours. We talked for about five hours straight. I would have met her anyway that weekend at a sports training session, but it would have taken longer for things to get going. The main sport that I play is often played with Men and Women on the same team, so there are always quite a few hetero couples around the place. Definitely some female couples too. The male ones are probably there, as I know gay blokes who play, but never met any who were out and with someone who also played.

  77. Mark

    Naomi, I dare say you are right!

  78. Mark

    Russell, NF Coles is a lot straighter than it once was.

    I found once or twice that having been born in the same year and having similar recollections of 80s/early 90s clubs and bands was a great conversation starter at a bar. And as Lefty E points out above, Brisvegas is the town of half a degree of separation, so it soon snowballs into “ah, she’s my cousin’s ex-flatmate’s boss now”! Ah, love in a northern town (bad 80s song reference).

  79. harry

    I got better.
    I don’t know that I seriously thought I was going to pick up with the lines, but they were too good not to say. And if she had leapt into my arms, she would have been, by definition, the most wonderful woman in the world. QED.

    There was the ‘It’s not easy to say this but Gzrnmblmpht.’ Didn’t work at all. [Tripod used the same joke several years later, which shows that genius is occasionally not unique.]
    Oh, and Spanish doesn’t always work. Two mates and I dressed up as Mexicans and serenaded a girl I was keen on on the stairs of Women’s College. Two guitars that they could do the ‘dum dadadun dadadun’ thingo on, and a bugle that I couldn’t play. None of us spoke Spanish so we used lots of ‘enchilada’ ‘hasta hwella innuedno’ faux spanish etc.
    It rhymed.
    Apparently we were quite loud.
    It didn’t work.
    She just looked confused and then I borrowed her biology notes.

    Funnily enough, a year later one of my compadres of that evening was at Manning bar and chatting to a resident of Women’s College about mutual friends, who then apropos to nothing, mentioned some crap serenade done by dodgy Mexicans the year before.
    My friend admitted ‘Yeah, that was me and some friends.’

    See? Fame!

    “Argh, Harry! what other non-pick up lines do you have.”
    Naomi, now I just rely on having a refined, elegant dinner party as described here: http://forbattle.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_forbattle_archive.html The post entitled ‘The Morning After or With friends like this, who needs to order-in a drunk idiot who puts their bum on your head?’ [sorry for the scrolling].

  80. harry

    “Ah, love in a northern town (bad 80s song reference). ”
    Yeah, but the DreamFactory were singing about a horrible wasteland that no-one would really like to go to and… oh. Right.

  81. observa

    Well brainy fecund gals I have some slightly bad news for you here
    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=56345
    It gets worse if you’re a lefty brainy fecund gal cos you can forget migrating to Noo Zulland, you really need to migrate to…..Gulp!

  82. Amanda

    Where are all the men like Husserl gone?

  83. Mark

    In other pop sociology news, young women are adopting strange role model:

    Rebecca Huntley, author of an upcoming book on generation Y, The World According to Y, says the highly sexed, post-feminist woman takes her cues from the likes of Paris Hilton, who is seen as a “man-eater, but there’s power associated with this”.

    Like. Whatever.

  84. Kate

    That’s stupid. The only ‘young women’ I know who adopt Paris Hilton as a role model are vacuous 14 year olds who aren’t old enough to know better. And I don’t think it’s her they’re emulating but rather the life of someone who’s so rich they don’t have to face any of the consequences of their stupid, delinquent behaviour.

    Gah. I really resent that implication. Most of my friends around my age would prefer to have Scarlett Johanssen as a role model, if you have to pick a celibritay. Or Angelina Jolie at a stretch, even though she’s kinda scary, but at least she gives a damn.

    My young female role-models are all knitters, so there you go.

    Amanda, help? You’re a young woman too! Back me up here?

    And as for the man drought… Mark, you’re not just a person anymore, you’re a commodity!

  85. Mark

    Scarlett Johanssen is wonderful.

    The article bases most of its evidence on BB! But it’s typical – I should get out of the business of writing learned sociology papers and theses and write pop sociology beatup bestsellers, and then I’d really commoditise myself, Kate!

  86. Amanda

    Yeah, Kate. I skimmed the article and then didn’t bother.

    (sorry for brevity of response, the bob carr thing means I have alot of work to do. Damn you, Bob.)

  87. Mindy

    I met Mr Mindy at a *ahem* medieval feast. He was wearing a really cute hat.

  88. Brownie

    Mark Mark Mark! how politicians LOVE people like you who forget so quick:

    “The weirdest student pollie relationships were always those between Young Labor types and Liberals. I can?Äôt think of any that lasted.” OF COURSE YOU CAN – Bob Ellis book was pulped because he discussed Abbott & Costello being Labor at Uni and being ‘turned’ by the winsome piano legs of Miss Liberal with the Big Liberal Daddy. she married one or both of them and was recently foolishly photographed wearing capri pants on the Australian Weekend Magazine cover. glad I can’t remember her name. Mrs Abbott n Costello though.

  89. Nabakov

    Good point Brownie. Here’s the actual line that triggered the hoo-ha.

    “‘Abbott and Costello’, said Rodney Cavalier, pacing up and down his baronial mansion after serving me for dinner as was his custom bread and water, ‘they’re both in the Right Wing of the Labor Party till the one woman fucked both of them and married one of them and inducted them into the Young Liberals.”

    And from what I’ve seen of politics behind the scenes and afterhours, there are many more stories like that. Never mind the pillowtalk, can you imagine the fucktalk?

    “Make me scream like a wet backbencher, you sexy factional bastard”
    “15% GST. Slash R&D tax concessions”
    “Oh, you dirty dry as dust piece of shit, you. Yes, yes, deep inside my caucus.”

    At this point, boggled minds may wish to step outside for a smoke.

  90. Mark

    Brownie, just as I have difficulty in thinking of Latho as a sexual being, so do I with Costello. That would account for my forgetfulness! Abbott, on the other hand, was obviously a lad.

    I’m also surprised no-one has mentioned two other opportunities for hooking up:

    1. The flatmate bonk. But is this a myth? Only in Cleo/Cosmo/FHM/Ralph and tv shows?

    2. The hottie that returns your glance repeatedly at the bus stop/on the bus/on the train. That happened to me this arvo, actually. But how do you take things further?

  91. Mark

    Mindy, there must have been more to it than that. Having gone to the Medieval Fayre last year in Vegas, everyone has a cute hat!

  92. Nabakov

    “But how do you take things further?”

    “Excuse me, one of us dropped this hankerchief.”

    Really Mark – you’ll be asking us about mummy bees and daddy birds next.

  93. flute

    Exactly right Nabs. Even saying “do you know what time the next bus is?” is taking it further than running away like a big girl. So much for the larvatus lethario.

  94. harry

    “Mindy, there must have been more to it than that. Having gone to the Medieval Fayre last year in Vegas, everyone has a cute hat!”

    As I recall the story, Mr Mindy also had really nice calves.
    And Mindy was wearing her the second-worst pair of undies known to womankind, right?
    Over the following months Mr Mindy graduated from wearing a cute hat to wearing vomit every so often.
    And now, 10 years later, they have a Mini Mr Mindy.

  95. Mark

    Flutey and Nabs, youse are legends. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.

    Context: I was waiting for the bus yesterday. Hottie walks down past bus-stop. Eyes lock. Hottie goes down a few metres further to sandwich/juice stop, goes inside. Then comes out with juice and rather than waiting for takeaway sandwich at the counter, sits on the front step of the said shop sipping her juice, where she continues to look at me, and vice versa. Goes inside to get sandwich, walks back to work with backward glances.

    Now – how should I have acted, agony uncles of the sphere?

  96. Steve Edney

    Mark, I suspect you should have consulted Hayek.

  97. Mark

    Perhaps if I’d been reading my well-thumbed Hayek tome, that would have been a conversation starter?

  98. dj

    Or she could have realised what it was and beaten you over the head with it.

  99. Mark

    Yes, it would be a double-edged sword with that sort of reading matter, dj!

  100. flute

    Just say any old bollocks Mark. Just walk up and open your mouth and let some words fall out. Break the ice. Get the right care factor. Too much and you’ll look like a jerk, not enough and you’ll look a wanker. The only way to learn is to get a few brush offs. Get put down by a few and you’ll have the confidence to succeed. The praxis of pulling.

    One of my daughter’s books is about a shy rabbit who learns that to make friends you just have to be a little bit brave.

  101. Luke

    I second that emotion, flute.

    It’s like walking home drunk – you just have to get up once oftener than you fall down.

  102. Nabakov

    “how should I have acted, agony uncles of the sphere?”

    “Pardon me but we’ve met before haven’t we? Monte Carlo in the season last year I believe. At that wonderful fancy dress party on Prince Omar’s yacht? You were dressed as an angel I recall and I came as Baron Otto von Bismarck.”

    or

    “Hey sweetcheeks, I bet you’re the kinda girl who’s into a little Popper. Wanna get Hayek?”

    Or you could take the subtle approach. Suddenly do something to make her gasp or laugh as she’s swallowing her food. Then when she starts choking you swiftly move in and administer the Heimlich maneuver. And even if she’s not grateful for having her life saved, you will still at least have copped a good feel.

    No, no need to thank me. The sight of young love blossoming is reward enough for this old heart.

  103. harry

    How about “Excuse me, but did you see my bottom jaw around here somewhere?”

    Ahhhh, If only that worked….

  104. harry

    Or “Sorry I’m staring. It’s just that I’m on drugs and you’re all sparkly.”

    I’m going with this one.

  105. Mark

    Er, Prince von Bismarck, Nabs!

  106. Zoe

    Did you have the purple leather jacket on? Was your fly done up?

  107. Mark

    Hahahaha! No, Zoe, I was heading to work so I was wearing jeans (with fly done up) and a stripey shirt!

    The said hottie obviously works locally so unlike the Lotharios on this thread, I might try smiling next time I see her rather than rushing in where everyone but harry fears to tread with bizarre lines or Nabs style physical comedy!

  108. liam hogan

    Wear a hat, Mark. The right headgear tops off any ensemble.

  109. Kate

    I think you’ve got the right idea Mark. You want to come across as ‘naturally charming’ and not ‘freaky stalker’.

  110. Mark

    Thanks, Kate. I fear that certain headgear choices might encourage the latter interpretation though! :)

  111. liam hogan

    Are you talking to me? There’s no-one else in a hat here, you must be talking to me

  112. Mark

    Paranoia, Liam. I was thinking of a top hat, for instance. Or a freaky military hat. NB – I am also wearing headgear in my gravatar.

  113. Nabakov

    “Prince von Bismarck”

    No Mark. There was already one Prince onboard so protocal required you come as a count not a prince. I can see this line isn’t gonna work for you if your memory’s that bad.

    Look, if you are getting tongue-tied, why not use some card and a marker to whip up speech bubbles you can hold next to your head. But make sure you spellcheck. “Is this the 49 Bus Root?” will only get your face slapped I can tell you.

    Incidentally, if you do score, my commission is 15%. I’ll take it off the top first if you don’t mind.

  114. rex bellatore

    I can vouch for Nabs assertion about being in bands. That’s how I met my wife. And plenty of girls before her. Drugs also help, but you only meet the druggy types of course.

    But what does my cephalopod gravatar say about me?!

  115. Mark

    Obviously, I am looking for a committed relationship not some tawdry bus stop encounter graced by the mention of German aristocrats of the Nineteenth Century.

  116. liam hogan

    Hey baby, wanna see my duelling scar?

  117. Nabakov

    “..some tawdry bus stop encounter graced by the mention of German aristocrats of the Nineteenth Century.”

    Don’t knock ‘em until you’ve tried ‘em. And don’t forget your Pickelhaube for that finishing touch. Girls love chaps whose heads are coming to a point. Ask Evil Pundit. (Where is the little scamp by the way? This thread should be right up his alley.)

  118. flute

    Mark, just don’t become known as “that creepy bus stop guy”. And don’t knock tawdry. What are you? Some sort of Family First squib that has surgery to replace every lost seed? Unless it’s away from the prying eyes and pressed slacks of your comrades in Christ. He can’t be omniscient all the time can he, that’s why we need more CCTV cameras at bus terminals. To catch out the cheating love rats like yourself, slap the feed on the internet and make a few bucks. “Bus Stop Bangers!” Oh, the shame.

  119. Nabakov
  120. Mark

    EP and Rob – don’t come round here no more.

  121. liam hogan

    Rob used one of my threads this morning for gravatar testing. I suspect he’ll come back with a bang when he gets off work.
    EP, though, seems to have gone MIA, as has everyone’s favourite sideshow, Fyodor. :(

  122. Mark

    Some commenters just don’t have the staying power. Sad.

  123. Luke

    Flute, I thought ‘Bus Stop Bangers” starred Ross Cameron.

  124. harry

    I think Fyodor’s on holiday. Or the wormhole collapsed and took him with it.

    rex’s cephalopod says mainy things about rex
    Good things:
    (a) very smart for his size
    (b) very good vision
    Bad things:
    (a) loses an arm during sex
    (b) servant of Cthulu
    (c) not found at bus stops.

    Got it!
    Mark to woman at bus stop: Where do you get off?
    Woman: Where the hell do you get off, you purple freak?!

    Hey hey!
    We can have the skinny on the best way to approach a woman at a bus stop!
    It’s a bit of a radical idea. It’s a bit ‘out there’, but bear with me.
    It goes like this:

    Hey, Kate! How would an amorous someone get talking to you at a bus stop?

  125. Kate

    harry… it’s so much easier to say what NOT to do! I’m trying to think of times when nice young men have actually approached me and how they did it and how I responded.

    After some reflection, I think it’s less about the mechanics of the approach and more about the manner. If someone is friendly and cheerful and doesn’t get too personal then it’s cool, yes? They can open with any sort of nuetral gambit (this also helps to gauge the other person’s interest) as long as they’re not being creepy.

    Subtlety is also good.

  126. Nabakov

    But Pickelhaubes are cool Kate? Not too creepy? And waxed mustaches? And an imaginary friend called “The Amazing Guido”?

    If we keep this up, I think we can look forward to Mark’s debut on “Australia’s Funniest Home Videos”…or “Crimestoppers”.

  127. harry

    “Subtlety is also good. ”

    Ahhh, something like “My friend speaks Spanish and has nicer hair, but I have much better taste in music. How about meeting later and playing pool for beer money?” I get ya.

  128. boynton

    A young man approached me once (when I was out walking)
    with this subtle line:
    “Hi Do you wanna Rock and Roll?”
    Must say I aprreciated the essential sincerity of that one.

    (endorse Kate’s call for a certain personable neutrality – space until you suss each other out)

  129. Kate

    Oh yes, Nabs, every woman I know fantasises about delusional Prussians in military regalia!

  130. Nabakov

    Yes, but it’s the speech bubbles and Heimlich maneuver that really seals the deal, isn’t it?

  131. Lefty Elitist

    Yeah, being in bands is the mystery pull factor. How can it be explained? Ive been in at least one good band, and a couple of crap ones besides. Quality of the band seemed to make no discernible difference. I was still at least 10 times more interesting to ladies of the opposite sex than I ever was as mild-mannered lefty academic of no fixed haircut.

    Or indeed – for those who know me – of no fixed hair.

  132. harry

    Lefty,

    If we were truly honest to ourselves we’d have to admit that if we actually understood women they wouldn’t be half the fascinating creatures that they are.

    “Yes, but it?Äôs the speech bubbles and Heimlich maneuver that really seals the deal, isn?Äôt it?”
    #You had me at “Stand back! I’ve seen this on the telly!”
    According to Crazybrave Zoe it’s washing up gloves and an active hoover.

  133. liam hogan

    I don’t know, Naomi. I’ve always found a beret to be a great conversation starter in public places.

    Excuse me, I don’t mean to interrupt or be rude but WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ON YOUR HEAD?

  134. Lefty Elitist

    Yes, in that sitch, I would probably have adopted a Bronx accent and said “You like sandwiches huh? What is that … Rye? Im a bagel man myself” or something equally smmmoooooth.

    Followed by my winning Morris dance routine.

  135. Kate

    Now Morris dancing is the way to get the chicks, Lefty E.

  136. Lefty Elitist

    Its the only way Kate.

    Aside from totally ignoring them, while mock-tackling your annoying loud mates, drinking heavily and making occasional “phwoooaaar” noises, of course.

  137. dj

    Maybe you should give her a piece of paper with the LP url on?

  138. Mark

    Best suggestion ever, dj! I’ll get some purple business cards printed!

  139. Mark

    Or does “I wrote on a thread on my blog that you’re a hottie” indicate crazed geek stalker!

    Naomi, I popped down to the said sandwich shop to get my lunch today. Nice sandwiches – will visit again.

  140. Amanda

    Blogging business cards are old hat. Why do you think we call Flute the Brian Houston of Blogging?

  141. Mark

    Tattoo of url?

  142. Zoe

    Just not on your forehead, Mark.

    Perhaps she already reads LP but can’t quite place you without your halo?

  143. Mark

    Yes, I saw someone with a forehead tattoo the other day – it’s not a good look. Are you assuming my halo isn’t visible at the bus stop, Zoe?

  144. Amanda

    Tattoos these days are no good for impressing people until at later stages of the relationship, usually. You should talk to her, if you see her again. Were I a hottie, that’s what I’d want.

    If itt is a disaster it is still good blogging material so win:win.

  145. Zoe

    I’m guessing that if your halo is visible at the bus stop you’re playing to a very limited group of hotties, Mark.

    Forehead tattoos are almost always quite wrong. On the other hand, I hear that a stylish teardrop under the eye will get you quite a long way in some circles.

  146. Mark

    Will do, Amanda.

    I am thinking of getting tattoos but they wouldn’t be immediately visible.

  147. flute

    You need some salvation amanda.

  148. Mindy

    Mark, you could always try the cliched, but often effective ‘hi’, as you walk past, smiling, leaving her wanting more.

    harry – please get it right. Mr Mindy has fabulous thighs, and good ankles, the calves are pretty good too, but not the first thing I noticed. Secondly, the undies were my worst pair, and it was the second time we’d been out to a medjeval thing together. See – wear your worst undies, safe in the notion that you aren’t going to be showing them to anyone, and end up meeting the man you are going to marry. Easy.

    Mark – it really was the hat. It was a fur thing and really rather cute.

  149. Mark

    Liam will be proud, Mindy. The headgear is the hotness.

  150. Fyodor

    Yes, tattoos would complement the beret very nicely. Of course, nothing spells S.P.U.N.K. like a leering, tattooed old bloke in a beret. Just sayin’, is all…

    I mean, honestly, it’s nice ‘n’ all that the gravys are back, Don Marco, but that was the best you could do?

  151. Mark

    More importantly, Fyodor, it’s nice that you’re back.

  152. Fyodor

    Vielen dank, mein herr.

  153. Irant

    Oh just get drunk and make a clumsy pass as we all do. Unless there is a pub nearby you may need to BYO.

    Least that is how it worked when I was single. For some reason I don’t remember that much.

  154. Mark

    Ok, combining a few suggestions – drunk and sleeping on the bus stop – not the way to win the heart of a hottie!

  155. meg

    A good hat maketh the man. I know several men who own damn fine hats…

    And I would have said that using all the above lines is a great way to cut through the crap and find a girl who really appreciates you. I mean hell, if she laughes at those jokes, or has read those books then you are set!! I’d like to make a stand on behalf of all us chickies who like a good hat and a bad pun.

  156. liam hogan

    Fyodor! Good to see you’re back.

    Hats, kids, are the way to go. If you can’t make scintillating conversation they’ll at least keep your head warm while you drunkenly snooze.

  157. Nabakov

    Or take a hint from the lovemeister.

    “Hey, hey, good lookin’,
    Whatcha got cookin’?
    How’s about cookin’ somethin’ up with me?

    Hey, sweet baby,
    Don’t you think maybe
    We could find us a brand new recipe?
    I got a hot-rod Ford and a two-dollar bill
    And I know a spot right over the hill.

    There’s soda pop and the dancin’s free,
    So if you wanna have fun come along with me.

    Hey, good lookin’,
    Whatcha got cookin’?
    How’s about cookin’ somethin’ up with me?
    I’m free and ready,
    So we can go steady.

    How’s about savin’ all your time for me?
    No more lookin’,
    I know I’ve been tooken [sic].
    How’s about keepin’ steady company?

    I’m gonna throw my date-book over the fence
    And find me one for five or ten cents.
    I’ll keep it ’til it’s covered with age
    ‘Cause I’m writin’ your name down on every page.”

    Yes, you can’t beat the classics, even if they are rendered by skinny psychotic hillbillies.

  158. Kate

    I saw a man in a beret last night at the Doves’ show, Liam, and I thought of you. Of course, it couldn’t have been you unless you just ducked over to Freo for an evening, but anyway.

  159. Amanda

    For Naomi: I was going to put this in that thread at wsacaucus but somehow it seems more appropriate for LP. I worry about diminishing myself in the eyes of your hardcore insiders and spoiling their serious business.

    I once had an erotic dream about Michael Egan.

    There I’ve said it. I want a similar confession from every one of you here.

  160. Luke

    I dated Alexander Downer’s daughter once. Well, maybe two or three times. Have I just completely dicredited myself now?

  161. Zoe

    yep

  162. Luke

    lol

    gee thanks Zoe….I was a silly young man….now I’m to trail my misdeeds around after me like a fart that follows you into the next room, apparently.

  163. Lefty Elitist

    Just dont date Ruddock’s daughter Luke. Deportable offence.

  164. Luke

    Alex looks better in stockings than his daughter….

  165. Zoe

    and don’t think you’ve got off scott free either, Amanda

    Michael Egan you say?

  166. Amanda

    I was rather taken aback at the time too.

  167. liam hogan

    Dude, it’s enough that you told us it happened.
    We don’t need to know any more details.

  168. Zoe

    Couldv’e been worse I suppose. Ever seen Joanna Gash?

    Or, to be non-partisan about it, Kelly Hoare?

    Perhaps they should start a comedy duo?

  169. Kate

    This thread has taken a disturbing turn. I may have to scrub my brain out now.

  170. liam hogan

    I am told that Anthony Albanese, the Lothario of the NSW Left takes Al Grassby’s traditions to heart.
    They certainly share a taste in casual shirt colours and jewellery.

  171. meg

    I once had a dream about Kim Beazley….
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    just that I met him down the shops.

  172. Nabakov

    Bismarck could beat up Michael Egan any day and while wearing stockings much better than Alex ever could. But if you’re wondering, no I’ve never dated the Iron Chancellor, or even dreamt about him for that matter.

    And if you imagine I’d admit to being summarily ejected from St Kilda Cemetery after being caught in flagrante delicto there, you’ve got another think coming.

  173. Luke

    Who’s the best looking Federal Member of Parliament?

  174. Zoe

    Depends on what you fancy, Luke. Kate Ellis is very pretty, but I reckon this guy looks like the Member for the OC.

  175. Amanda

    Um, Zoe? No he doesn’t. Maybe the stuffy Ivy League prig whose girl runs off with the bit of rough.

    He’s a BComm (Griffith) though — goss, Mark!

  176. Amanda

    I don’t know of anyone in Fed parliament who turns my head actually. My heart belongs to Chuck Schumer.

  177. Zoe

    The TEETH, Amanda, it’s the TEETH.

    That said, I have in fact never watched the OC.

  178. Luke

    Don’t start me on Kate Ellis. We’ll just say that you’re not the only person to have noticed her charms. Some of them are very influential in preselection.

  179. Mark

    C.L.’s archives are terrible to search, but he wrote a poem in praise of Kate Ellis’ beauty. Just sayin…

  180. Mark

    Amanda, Senator Schumer is a very sharp dresser.

    The true hottie among pollies’ kids has to be PJK’s daughter.

    Thanks to this thread, on every bus I caught today, I was totally preoccupied with sundry hotties.

    On the OC – two words. Seth. Argyle.

  181. Mark

    Amanda, goss – son of the only judge ever to be sacked by the Queensland Parliament for corruption.

    Other than that, which is a matter of public record, I know nothing. He wasn’t doing his BComm when I was at (Griffith). Please note also that I am a BComm(Hons)(First Class). As I tell the hotties on buses…

  182. liam hogan

    The true hottie among pollies?Äô kids has to be PJK?Äôs daughter.

    Word is that she inherited all of the arrogance and none of the charm. My little birdies tell me she can’t even hand out how-to-votes without offending people.

  183. Amanda

    Hey Liam, did you see Sparkle Boy on the news/stateline tonight. He used the word stoush not once, but twice. In an affectionate manner.

  184. liam hogan

    Right on! Stoush™!

  185. Mark

    Okay, and I have no idea if she reads this, but of all Queensland pollies’ daughters, Stacia Palaszczuk (daugher of a Goss/Beattie Minister), with whom I had the honour to go to uni, and who’s still a friend, is the massively hottestness.

    Christ – drunken commenting!

  186. Amanda

    Drunken commenting — I wouldn’t do it any other way.

  187. Mark

    And here am I revealing uni crushes! Aarrgghh!

  188. Lefty Elitist

    Marky Mark Mark….. tut tut tut..

    Stasher? Straight to the pissedpost thread with that one!

    (And all mine to come… its Merlot at 10 paces)

  189. Lefty Elitist

    Yep, I vote for pissed posting too. Its fun, and educational for all.

    And, in the spirit, It wasn’t just Mark. I too a wee crush on Stacia P. But thats way back in 87. When Joh ruled Quinceland with an iron paw-paw.

    But lets not get all UQish circa expo on this national forum. We are speaking to a nation here.

    That nation is Ostraya, and before it, I declare that I would eat glass in exchange for 10 minutes of Kate Ellis’ good factional lovin’.

  190. Irant

    Oi, good drunken commenting can’t be self-referential.

    The best drunken comments are the ones where you wake up the following morning (or afternoon), see what you have written and the avoid the blog for a few weeks after in embarrassment all the while wondering why Nabs keeps emailing you asking for a date.

  191. Lefty Elitist

    Moving from love to other catastrophes:

    Ladies and gentleman, I give you…
    Alexander Downer

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200507/s1425985.htm

  192. Lefty Elitist

    Where’s my Keating gravatar? I ordered it days ago…. sigh

  193. Lefty Elitist

    Irant… yes. Although mysteriously my spelling improves when drunk. It good to embarass one’s self in style.

    Im being sent ‘ebulletins’ from the Australian democrats. How can this be? did I sign some especially wet petition? Aren’t they defunct?

  194. Lefty Elitist

    Hang on , aren’t there two r’s in embarrass? Well, that was self-nullifying and self-referential post. There’s a town in Minnesota called Embarrass. No kiddin.

    Anyway, I have to work tomorrow. While everyone else is probably having fun.

    Nite ‘straya!

    Keep yer borders controlled!

  195. Fyodor

    Et puis les mises en sc√®ne se ferment…

  196. meg

    I might be pidshed. But not enough to deakl with ‘Downer’ and ‘crooning’ in the same sentance.

  197. Brownie

    Brunie est ici.
    Elitist Gauche said:
    “Yeah, being in bands is the mystery pull factor. How can it be explained?”
    Mate? you are under a bright light with a guitar, everyone has Dressed For Sucsex, and THEY are drunk.
    I am trying to warn Anna Spades off her swoony muso over at
    http://fucksters.blogspot.com/
    am doomed to fail.

  198. Brownie

    I’ve figured it out now, like Sgt Columbo, I hadda come back to your:
    “was waiting for the bus yesterday. Hottie walks down past bus-stop. Eyes lock…. she continues to look at me . . . Goes inside to get sandwich, walks back to work with backward glances.
    Now – how should I have acted, agony uncles of the sphere? ”

    Hottie is thinking: he IS cute in that beret but he has no car. drat!
    So: You jiggle your Aston Martin keys ring at her and say – If the cart wasn’t being serviced I would whisk you away for a better lunch than that”

  199. Mark

    Right, more revelations – big crush on Rebecca K. too.

  200. Mark

    And everyone but Lefty E is saying – like whatever? But I was asked for more revelations!

  201. Mark

    Ps – Brownie – I neither own nor wear a beret – at the bus stop or anywhere else. Evidently why hotties with a cognate interest in public transport don’t shamelessly throw themselves at me.

  202. Lefty Elitist

    Harking back to our sadly dialogic revelations, Mark, yes, RK was ultra-scrummmy. Any news on current activities?

  203. Mark

    Oh, absolutely, Lefty E, we’re in touch – but it’s her life and she can do without having it posted on a blog, I dare say!

  204. Lefty Elitist

    Indeed! Say hi from Lefty.

  205. Mark

    Will do!

  206. Kim

    Lefty E, are you really switching to PJK? I’m liking Byron personally.

  207. liam hogan

    Kim has a point, Izquierdista del Elite. PJK was much more of a plain elitist, and not much of a lefty.

  208. Kim

    And I’m sure Byron didn’t collect clocks.

  209. Lefty Elitist

    I humbly bow to the verdict of my peers. Byron rulez da skool.

    Its just that in the gravatar he seems distant and removed….

    hang on… quelle parfait!

  210. Mark

    Lefty E – Byron definitely has the gravitas. Just getting in before Homer…

  211. Sachmo

    I don’t remember ever having seen Mark with a beret – wearing it or otherwise! And that was during quite a few years in the 90s. Berets suite some people quite well…

  212. Sachmo

    sorry – that should be suit, not suite! I’m in pre-holiday brain drain.

  213. Mark

    No, I have never worn a beret!