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11 responses to “The Amateur Technocrat (IV)”

  1. Yobbo

    The easiest way to answer the question “are we doing better than New Zealand” is to look at the net migration between the two countries. As long as they are still flocking here I’m guessing we’re doing ok.

    The kiwis really do punch well above their weight in sporting terms though, considering the population difference not only with Australia, but with the other countries they play against (England, South Africa, India), they do pretty well.

    Even in cricket they are probably Australia’s toughest rivals after England and India. They are top class competitors in pretty much every sport except soccer. And if you go to any pub in Perth, it won’t be long until one of the 300 kiwis there tells you so.

  2. Bernice Balconey

    Oh Howard’s just worried that when he’s celebrating his 48th year as PM, if the rural economy has continued on its drought driven journey to oblivion, even the rabbits will have migrated. & where will he get his Akubra then?
    Oh what a load of nonsense – the old tosser’s going potty. First his laughable Quadrant rant & now this – most urban Australians treat the countryside as a convenient place to throw their MacDonald wrappers. Are they engaged with the water rights issue? Water useage? Land degradation? Rising salinity? Plummetting rates of land fertility? Its hard enough getting farmers to take note – Mr & Mrs Suburbia are probably quite happy for their nostalgia, their national character to pop up as a nice sunset shot of the Yass Valley screensaver on the DVD player in the four wheel drive.

  3. pre-dawn leftist

    Its a pity that Howrad didnt give a shit about the manufacturing industry that also used to be part of our national psyche.

    Hang on, they were unionists who voted Labor!

    Oh well, I guess that’s OK then…

  4. Andrew E

    That Live and Sweaty anthem captures something very basic to the psyche of this country.

    I think you have it the wrong way around: NZ are obsessed with Australia and it’s not true in reverse unless you’re a Kiwi with a chip the size of Brian McKechnie’s bat on your shoulder. The L&S thing was a cheap wind-up that had an entire nation bristle and write hand-wringing articles on National Identity – and no, not this one.

    I’ll reconsider this position when:
    * some vengeful Aussie goes into some decrepid NZ nursing home and pushes Colin ‘Pine Tree’ Meads off a cliff for what he did to Ken Catchpole, or
    * the Aussie netball team get a ticker-tape parade for beating theirs
    * Fisher & Paykel actually advertise the fact to Australians that they make stuff in NZ

    Even in cricket they are probably Australia’s toughest rivals after England and India.

    And the West Indies. And Pakistan. And South Africa. And, on their day, Sri Lanka. Admit it Yobbo, they are a useful Pura Cup side at best.

  5. Idiot/Savant

    I agree with Andrew E; (too many) of “us kiwis” are obsessed with Australia, wheras Australians don’t really give a rat’s arse about their smaller sheep-infested neighbour. Hell, our major opposition party spent the last election campaign whining about the need to “close the gap” with Australia economically – without of course considering for a moment how their policies had created that gap in the first place.

    As for farming and droughts, many of us are taking quiet pleasure in the fact that while climate change is going to hurt us, its going to hurt the Kyoto-withdrawing, climate-change-denying, US-sucking-up-to Aussies more. That’ll teach you to burn coal!

  6. Gummo Trotsky

    Leaving aside the question of national obsessions there is one substantial issue that, maybe, arises from that last table – when non-mineral exports are compared on a per capita basis (a rough and ready way to compensate for the differences in the populations and the size of the economies), NZ does much better on exports than our land of ragged mountain ranges etc. Assuming, of course, I did the numbers right.

    And while Fisher and Paykel might be keeping quiet about where there washing machines are manufactured – it’s only the Australian manufacturers who play the nationalism card in marketing to the Australian market – the situation there is fairly typical. They buy steel from Bluescope (I presume) and turn it into washing machines to sell back to us. Who gets more out of that deal?

    So what’s this economic gap, exactly? Without that big windfall on commodities prices in 2005/06, the Australian trade deficit would have continued to climb. Then there’s the whole issue of the current account deficit.

    Days like today, I start to suspect it’s time to give up on the sardonic stuff and start posting boringly earnest didactic pieces. Maybe I could put irony tags atound that title or something.

  7. Idiot/Savant

    Gummo: the difference? Why, we have water, and lots of it, which makes agriculture fairly profitable (we don’t do much manufacturing here at all).

  8. Andrew E

    As for farming and droughts, many of us are taking quiet pleasure in the fact that while climate change is going to hurt us, its going to hurt the Kyoto-withdrawing, climate-change-denying, US-sucking-up-to Aussies more.

    Really? Agriculture is 3% of our economy and about the same percentage of the workforce. If every second farm in Australia shut down the economic impact would be minimal, while to do the same in NZ would be to cut the national throat.

    NZ national motto: it could be worse.

  9. Bismarck

    I’ll throw this in from left field. Could it be that Australia has an edge on NZ partly because it was colonised earlier? There’s a study reported in Slate that suggests that the longer an island has been colonised by Europeans the higher its standard of living is, provided the colonial power was a post-Enlightenment state.

    Almost certainly not, in the case of Aust/NZ rivalry, because the dates of colonisation are very close and there are too many other relevant variables. Interesting article, though.

  10. Tom Davies

    Wouldn’t you expect a smaller country to have more imports and exports as a percentage of GDP than a larger one? I don’t think the last table is surprising.

    Do you think NZ gets more out of selling washing machines to Australia than we get out of buying them? If so, what makes you think that?

  11. Yobbo

    No, I don’t agree Andrew. NZ are a much tougher outfit than Pakistan, Sri lanka, West Indies and South Africa. Especially when they play Australia.

    West Indies are a joke for a start, they haven’t been good for 15 years and may never be again.

    NZ is ranked 3rd of all 1-day playing nations after Australia and South Africa. Their test ranking is quite low at the moment but they played 10 fewer test matches than most other countries this year for some reason. Even so they are still above the Windies and even with South Africa.

    And this is despite the fact that their best fast bowler has been injured for 5 years. I think they go ok.