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  1. whyisitso

    Oh come on Kim. You know you’re just itching to join in. Or haven’t you had a brazilian yet?

  2. Kim

    That’s my business really since I’m not a starlet with an SUV!

  3. Another Kim

    Till someone has a picture, we’re all safe. :)

  4. gilmae

    There was at least one corner of the larger culture that didn’t remain silent. Miranda Devine wrote an op-ed for the SMH last Sunday, an op-ed that used the examples of Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears to cast the blame upon young women and their lack of self-respect for a rise in misogyny.

    And yet, no uproar over what amounts to yet again blaming the victim for being ‘uncovered meat’. Not from the media. Not from the blogosphere.

    I know it is a little tangential from the post above but why do we think it so that not a peep was said. I would argue that Devine’s comments had a far wider initial audience than other incidents – Mel Gibson’s, Michael Richardson’s, Hilally.

  5. Kim

    Till someone has a picture, we’re all safe. :)

    I really don’t have an SUV though! :)

  6. Kim

    Ah, right you are, gilmae.

    In fact that link was in Ken’s original post!

    PARIS Hilton, Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan are the stars of a new slew of internet gossip sites, fondly known as the “slagosphere”, which run video of celebrity airheads and reams of paparazzi photographs that never make the magazines.

    Lately the on again, off again gal pals – or “frenemies” as they are sometimes called – have been plumbing new depths of banality and bad taste.

    They wear no underwear when they go out in their finery and keep accidentally-on-purpose flashing their shaven crotches to assembled cameras as they alight from Hilton’s car or some limo.

    The gynaecological photos, complete with fresh caesarean scars in the case of recently single mother-of-two Spears, have become the talk of the internet.

    Shorter Miranda: women are responsible for misogyny.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/miranda-devine/misogynys-rise-no-surprise-when-selfrespect-rejected/2006/12/02/1164777845118.html

  7. Jason Soon

    Big deal, people where what they want to wear for whatever reason. There’s no inherent reason why we’re currently walking around in shirts and jeans rather than togas today.

  8. Liam

    I’m impressed, Kim, that you managed to work cultural criticism in there—otherwise I’d have thought this was just a tawdry, sordid attempt to garner the attention of technorati. You and Rafe Champion, you can’t help yourselves.

    It’s all fun and games until the boys get in on the act. Scottish male celebrities, raise the cultural bar your fellows in fame, and keep your skirts *down*. I’m talking to you, Ewan McGregor.

  9. gilmae

    Since a one-liner on Club Troppo doesn’t count as community outrage, or even media outrage, the question remains. It surely can’t be because the media won’t pick on their own, because certain parts of the media didn’t even try to disguise their glee after the Walkley Awards.

  10. Kim

    There’s always the hypothesis that Devine isn’t a Muslim cleric, gilmae…

  11. Kim

    Liam, Rafe’s certainly cornered the “Bill Hutt” hitwhoring market…

    Just sayin…

  12. gilmae

    Why, I’m shocked, Kim! Shocked indeed that you would cast such aspersions of Islam-related sensationalism at the Australian media. Why, I feel almost overcome with vapors at the very thought.

    But in all seriousness, Miranda is at least being consistent. At the time she tentatively agreed with gist of what Hilally said. I don’t understand, however, why the blogosphere, which in many ways has established itself as a guerilla Media Watch – Tim Blair’s entire reason for being on some days – didn’t say much at all.

  13. Kim

    It might just be that people aren’t paying attention on Sundays, gilmae.

  14. whyisitso

    Ho hum. Women flash their twats and of course men made them do it, as usual.

    Heaven help the little dears, one day many generations hence they will actually evolve a brain of their own.

  15. Another Kim

    May I speak plainly?

    I understand stirring the pot for a conversation..yet..

    Is it about uncovered meat? Anti-Hollywood? Take a crap on white trash? Enjoying the downfall of one who was going to fall anyway?

    Enjoyable one and all.

    I miss Britney from the Mickey Mouse Club days. Bwaaaaa.

  16. Kate

    I find it all a bit sad and tawdry but I’m not terribly outraged. So, women have genitals, and if we don’t cover ‘em up, they can be seen. SHOCK HORROR etc.

    There’s been a steady upping of the ante of what tactics starlets employ to get publicity. (No good PR, and so on.) I’m sure this does all say something about wider culture — like the fact that pretty young things acting in ridiculous ways garnering lots of attention. I dunno. Not feeling very much like this is worthy of a whole lot of attention, especially as I do hope that if we ignore them, they’ll go away.

  17. Kim

    So you’re standing up for the “men create misogyny” hypothesis, whyisitso?

  18. Kim

    Whatever happened to Britney as a pinup girl for virginity?

    Just askin…

  19. whyisitso

    the “men create misogynyâ€? hypothesis

    What’s that?

  20. Another Kim

    After a couple of babies and a couple of husbands and partying with Paris, selling the Virginity line doesn’t do too much for her..

  21. Alex

    Who gives a fuck?

  22. Kim

    Yeah, I know, Another Kim. But I was more thinking of the irony about her squeaky clean image of the late 90s. Wasn’t she held up as a role model by some Bush administration chastity education in schools honcho in 2001?

  23. Kim

    I do hope that if we ignore them, they’ll go away.

    That’s another possible answer to gilmae’s question, Kate.

    Trashy celebs have a very different cultural position to outraged Imams and anxious Archbishops…

  24. TEH HIVEMIND

    the “men create misogynyâ€? hypothesis

    What’s that?

    Oh piss off. If you’re going to try to be a provocative stirrer MAKE A BIT OF BLOODY EFFORT.

    xx

  25. Kate

    According to the imam, Britney should be surrounded by dozens of rapacious man-cats right about now, yes?

  26. wbb

    This isn’t misogyny. This is the more of the same. Norma Jean, Janette Jackson and finally this. In our context.

    What’s disturbing today is that it is now occurring in an electronically connected global forum. The clash of cultures is inflamed. We’re scared what this says about us to certain other cultures. They’re truly shocked at the depths they think we have sunk to.

    Fashion tip: the Brazilian is on its last legs.

  27. Kim

    I imagine security keeps them away from her, Kate.

  28. Kim

    Fashion tip: the Brazilian is on its last legs.

    Not according to the pics on Suicide Girls, wbb.

    Just sayin…

  29. Kate

    I like the CUSS approach to the bikini area: http://cussandotherrants.com/

    NSFW, little chickens.

  30. jo

    Maybe it should have been called public hair?

    There is a pic. of Marilyn Monroe sans panties at a press conference in Kenneth Anger’s Hollywood Babylon II and also a pic of Carmen Miranda in full fruit basket regalia, being swung around by Cesar Romero – both captioned: natural air-conditioning.

    Same old, same old!

    Although both Marilyn and Carmen’s have pubic hair (not Paris’s five o’clock shadow) which provides a fig of modesty I ‘spose, unlike today’s fashionable medical examination/paedophilic/penthouse close-up styled vaginas.

    I’m going out a limb, and predicting the Map of Tassie making a huge comeback. (just refreshed and glad to see wbb on the same page….!!!)

    Btw – Looking through my old copy of Hollywood Babylon II, today’s stars are pretty clean living compared to those golden years of Hollywood mega-stars – some truly shocking pictures in his collection –the first quote of the book “We all have the strength to endure the misfortune of othersâ€? La Rochefoucauld

  31. Kate

    Also, any mention of bikini line matters is a suggestion only, and should not be taken as any indication whatsoever of the state of this poster’s grooming.

  32. Another Kim

    The only difference between them and us is a billion dollars, a really bad publicist and twenty martinis.

    Oh..and twenty feet of legs in Paris’s case.

    Trash is all in the eye of the beholder.

  33. FDB

    “I imagine security keeps them away from her, Kate.”

    That and she’s a repugnant skank.

  34. whyisitso

    “Fashion tip: the Brazilian is on its last legs”.

    Don’t you mean “above” the last legs, wbb? Or maybe astride is the correct word.

  35. Another Kim

    FDB…if one was politically correct, one might ask..(not that I am)

    Who made you the judge of skankiness?

  36. FDB

    I was elected by a panel of my peers in the field of comparative skankology, seeing as you ask.

    You know how I hate to blow my own horn.

  37. Another Kim

    FDB, your qualifications are beyond compare.

    If you were into total comparative skankiness and blowing of horns, there are other questions to be asked.

    But never mind.

  38. Alex

    Without wishing to lower the tone any further, but did anyone else notice what seemed to be a caesarian scar in one of the pics?

  39. Another Kim

    Alex asked who gives a f*ck and now he’s asking about details about scars!

    Jest saying!

  40. Liam

    Without wishing to lower the tone any further

    I’ll go and get the limbo bar and the calypso drums.

  41. FDB

    *wipes sweat from brow*

    Thanks for not going there.

  42. Alex

    Alex asked who gives a f*ck and now he’s asking about details about scars!

    I just needed to have one last look to make sure I didn’t give a f*ck.

  43. Alex

    In all honesty I just needed to blow the pic up in order to verify its authenticity.

  44. FDB

    That’s right Alex, keep that tone lofty!

  45. Geoff Honnor

    Can’t say I’d really noticed……………

  46. Another Kim

    I was looking for just that right Harry Belafonte clip to complete the mood..the Limbo one. No luck yet.

  47. Another Kim

    (Hands a hanky to FDB)

    That’s alright son. Haven’t we all been there? Sure we have. Lord help us.

  48. Quintus Loftius, He Of The Lofty Tone

    This all reminds me of the time, during the Feast of Iupiter Optimus Maximus, when I was seated in the Senate, discursing upon Neoteric poetry and the lately concluded Bythinian Wars with my learned colleagues, Obnoxius, Septimus Skankius, and Fastidius.

    I don’t need to add that we were all wearing togas, and as such had no undies on underneath. My my, how our balls were a-swangin’! (Of course, should the Bythinians rise up once more against us, I suppose I shall have to, well, gird my loins as it were, before donning the Greaves of War and so forth… the things one *does* for one’s patria.)

    But, as the motto reads on my patrician coat of arms, ‘Semper ubi sub-ubi!’

  49. Another Kim

    And they complain now a days about Christmas not being observed!

    Jupiter help us!

  50. Another Kim

    I have New Years resolution to stop calling on and presuming upon dieties.

    I so mean it.

    I think Poseiden’s getting so active these days, tho.’ Should he be spoken to more?

  51. joe2

    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That’s how the light gets in.
    That’s how the light gets in.
    That’s how the light gets in.

    From
    “Anthem” by Leonard Cohen
    http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/leonardcohen/anthem.html
    Hope that helps.

  52. Paulus

    That Reason comments thread is a hoot. My favourite is the chap who writes (apparently seriously) that:

    What you have to remember is that Hilton and Lohan are probably photographed by the paparazzi at least a few thousand times a year (obviously total picures are much more, but I’m just talking the actual photo opportunities). Of those thousands of events, Hilton has been caught with her beaver exposed only 3 times [!!!] … There is no crisis here. Even the most demure woman would have nip slips and beaver moments if they were photographed as many times per day as Paris Hilton.

    So apparently chicks are constantly exposing themselves to all and sundry. I condemn myself for having failed to notice this moving feast of reality porn all around me. Must get stronger contact lenses.

  53. whyisitso

    “the ‘men create misogyny’ hypothesis”

    Reminds me of the blonde economy-class passenger on the Sydney-Melbourne flight who plomked herself down in an empty business class seat and refused requests/orders from the chief steward then the co-pilot to move back to economy class, on the basis she was blonde and beautiful.

    The pilot handed the controls over to the co-pilot, saying he was married to a blonde, therefore knew how to speak “blonde”, and said he’d fix it up.

    After whispering a few words in the blonde’s ear, she meekly got up and moved back to her allocated seat.

    How did you manage that asked the crew in wonder. Easy says he. I just told her that business class wasn’t stopping at Melbourne on this flight!

  54. whyisheso

    Hey, a blonde joke! What a concept. I had never imagined that such excellent opportunities for mirth and merriment could be generated by ridiculing those with an unusually high level of the pheomelanin pigment in their hair.

    I shall report to Rigel VII that Earth humour is remarkably creative.

    Also, in the context of this thread, your joke has the advantage of proving the veracity of the hypothesis stated in your first line.

  55. Mark

    Via C.L. at Catallaxy, Camille Paglia weighs into the “crotchgate” debate:

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2197#comment-7316

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2006/12/camille-paglia-on-its-not-my-word.html

    Shorter Paglia: Flashing is only ok if it’s Madonna doing it.

  56. whyisitso

    Glad you liked my little ha-ha, whyisheso. I think another point about the joke you might have missed, though, is that many many blondes are fake blondes, blonde being such a sexy hair colour that it collects imitators. But there are some characteristics you simply can’t imitate, and it must be obvious the blonde in the joke was a natural-born blonde.

  57. whyisitso

    From Mark’s link:

    “These girls are lowering themselves to the level of backstreet floozies. It angers me because I fought a bitter fight to get feminism back on track and be pro-sex at the same time. This is degrading the entire pro-sex wing of feminism.”

    A pro-sex feminist! These wimmin are obviously out to exploit us blokes. Shame on them! What’s feminine for misogynist?

  58. Anna Winter

    When you open Pandora’s box, don’t be surprised to see Pandora’s box.

    Heh.

  59. Kim

    whyisitso, the fallacy you commit is that you assume everyone believes sex is about exploitation. Interesting…

  60. whyissheso