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20 responses to “Vonnegut was from somewhere else: Tralfamadore, perhaps.”

  1. Christine Keeler

    Damn it Kim. Tralfamadore. Julie Bishop. I just knew it.

  2. Kim

    Heh. So she wasn’t a triffid after all!

    The resemblance is pretty striking…

  3. Christine Keeler

    Well, now that I’ve really looked into her eyes I’d have to say her position on performance-based pay is pretty compelling.

    One of us, one of us, one of us …

  4. Christine Keeler

    But anyway I’ve always been comforted by Kurt’s presence on the planet, even if SH5 is the only book of his I’ve read. He’ll be greatly missed.

  5. j_p_z

    Excellent post, Kim. Well done.

    The famous incidents and historical imprints that left a mark on Vonnegut’s life and work are well known, most notably the war and Dresden. What is not often discussed fully (although he discussed it) as an important building block in his skeptical world view, would have been his family’s collective memory of the mass vilification of Germans, and German language and culture, in Middle America during the First World War. I doubt he was old enough to experience it personally, but his family did, and he knew about it.

    The phenomenon was really quite astonishing, when you consider what an enormous ethnic bloc German-Americans were and are, and how completely at ease they were in the mainstream of American life: white, Protestant, prosperous, nothing outsiderish about them at all, and they were present in huge numbers, yet the German language was suddenly banned from schools, books were burned, etc etc. There wasn’t a heinous level of personal persecution, I don’t think, (certainly not on the level of other ethnic problems in American society) yet the thing was quite remarkable and weird, and is little discussed. Vonnegut was well aware of it, and I think it must have colored his views about what humans do, and how so much of what they do is baffling.

    Anyway, great post.

  6. Kim

    Thanks, j_p_z.

    And, of course, most German-Americans were Republicans too.

    Similar things happened here in WW1, though German immigration to Australia was a lot smaller than to the US.

    It doesn’t get talked about much here either, perhaps partly because to do so would clash with the myth that there were no ethnic minorities prior to the postWW2 immigration.

  7. Pavlov's Cat

    Similar things happened here in WW1, though German immigration to Australia was a lot smaller than to the US.

    It does get talked about in South Australia, because German immigration was proportionately very high and also very early, with Silesian religious refugees fleeing persecution to what they rightly saw as a haven in the so-called ‘paradise of dissent’ that was the colony of SA in the 1840s.

    What this resulted in was thousands of South Australian ethnic Germans, some of them third or even fourth generation, being overtly and covertly persecuted all through WW1, during which dozens of German place-names were changed.

    (And have since been changed back, I’m glad to say.)

  8. Nabakov

    …the mass vilification of Germans, and German language and culture, in Middle America during the First World War.

    When they renamed sauerkraut as liberty cabbage. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

    I have to confess I always found Vonnegut a bit too fey and whimsical for my taste. But reading Slaughterhouse 5 as a teenager into ratty SF, raised by parents bombed by the Luftwaffe and who’s relatives then bombed Dresden, it did make an indelible impression on me. Must reread it again to see if that impression is still indelible.

    Bur regardless of my view of his work, it’s always sad to see another witty, humane, thoughtful and productive member of the human race shufffle off this mortal coil.

    Also interesting how few of the critical appreciations of Kurt’s work, and the current rash of obits, point out the immense influence of Mark Twain on his work. Now that’s a writer for the ages. Just reread for the first time in yonks, “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”. Now that’s a book jus’ dying to be remaded now a al Winterbottom’s “Tristam Shandy”.

  9. Andrew E

    I’m embarrassed to say that I thought he had already died. Vonnegut deserved the kudos that goes so regularly and in absurd amounts to the execrable Mailer and Burroughs. The American Milligan. Goodbye, and thank you.

  10. tigtog

    Thanks for posting this, Kim. I’ll have to catch up on some of the classic Vonnegut I’ve missed.

  11. Peter Kemp

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/12/kurt-vonnegut-on-the-daily-show/

    A tiny smidgeon here tigtog on a 2005 video clip of the Daily Show

    The earth’s immune system is trying to get rid of us, and so it should.

    I’ll say something good about Bush. He’s not the dumbest in the administration, the dumbest is our Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld…

  12. aidan

    If you want a better quality version of that interview try here:

    http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=18090

  13. Katz

    Passionate post Kim.

    I loved this bit from Vonnegut’s son about the utter vulgarity of Right Wing Culture Warriors:

    … If these commentators can so badly misunderstand and underestimate an utterly unguarded English-speaking 83-year-old man with an extensive public record of exactly what he thinks, maybe we should worry about how well they understand an enemy they can’t figure out what to call.

    It is possible that David Neson believed that, by stepping up to the plate to take a low blow at an octogenarian, he’d ingratiate himself to the Right Wing Noise Machine and find himself a steady, if not spiritually satisfying, career.

    But whoops!

    [Google] Results 1 – 10 of about 188 for “david neson”. (0.17 seconds)

    Neson’s literary career does not appear to have flourished.

  14. Katz

    However, David Nason has done quite well for himself:

    Results 1 – 10 of about 39,500 for “david nason”. (0.21 seconds)

  15. Helen

    Imbrication! Strewth. Not the first time I had to go to the OED (muttering imprecations) as a result of being on LP. Now I need an embrocation or two.

  16. joe2

    This is the booklist stolen from Wikipedia, with personal grades given by Kurt V, if anyone needs a memory prod.

    Player Piano: B
    The Sirens of Titan: A
    Mother Night: A
    Cat’s Cradle: A-plus
    God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater: A
    Slaughterhouse-Five: A-plus
    Welcome to the Monkey House: B-minus
    Happy Birthday, Wanda June: D
    Breakfast of Champions: C
    Slapstick: D
    Jailbird: A
    Palm Sunday: C

    I suspect there might be a few fans dusting off these old friends this weekend.
    He said he was sueing Pall Mall for false advertising because they promised , on the packet, to kill him and he had lasted so long. His books are addictive. Though I would never suggest starting with S.5.

    And thanks Kim.

  17. David Bath

    This is the only Vonnegut obit I’ve seen with a silly drawing. The extract from Wonkette was a damn good respectful parody of his style (although “Venus on the Half Shell”, originally published by “Kilgore Trout” was the best Vonnegut homage I’ve seen).

    We live in an silicon rather than mechanical Player Piano. Back to the keyboard.

  18. tim g

    Pavlov’s Cat: Not all German towns in SA reverted to their original names; Birdwood never returned to its original moniker Blumberg.

    Regarding the Nason interview, it seemed to me at the time that Vonnegut, knowing that Nason was employed by a real-life equivalent of the RAMJAC corporation, baited his hook and would have been gratified at how easily he landed a big, floppy wide-mouth bass.

  19. j_p_z

    Based on joe2′s list there, I’d say Our Man Kurt had a pretty clear-eyed view of the strengths and weaknesses of his achievement. The essential Vonnegut, I think, is Mother Night, Cat’s Cradle, and Slaughterhouse-Five. Everything else is optional to taste. As a kid I liked Breakfast of Champions, but it doesn’t hold up that well, except for the haunting ending.

    One of my favorite under-quoted moments in his work comes in Cat’s Cradle, where the typing-pool glee club at a Christmas party in a physics research lab mis-remembers the lines of a Christmas carol, and sings:

    The hopes and fears of all the years
    Are here with us tonight.

  20. boynton

    My favourite is Hocus Pocus which didn’t make the list.
    It was written nine years later.
    An A in my book.