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18 responses to “Republicans have hijacked 9/11 remembrance and re-branded it as 9/11TM”

  1. Amanda

    KO’s a bit of a blowhard but I can’t help but heart. Can I also quickly recommend MSNBC stablemate Rachael Maddow who has a new show. She was a new name to me a couple of weeks ago, but I’m really enjoying the vids:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26667261#26667261

  2. adrian

    Great post, tigtog, but shit I spleen the use of nouns as verbs.

  3. tigtog

    Noice illustrative example there, adrian. If I wasn’t almost certain sure that you equally despise adjectiving nouns, I’d call that impactful.

  4. Lefty E

    well, the good news is Palin’s a complete dud when unscripted.
    Though I’m probably misthreading.

  5. silkworm

    We urgently need a new thread on Sarah Palin, because she has repeatedly put her foot in her mouth in her first interview.

  6. Liam

    What’s wrong with a Republican adoption of 9/11 as a political data point? I mean, when you really get down to it?
    In the end, the events of 9/11 were unique only in that they were particularly unexpected and totemic. Iconic memory of the victims calls strongly on one conception of the role of the State; that being a political role for victim-memory and a concern about future violent attack. I don’t share the sentiment and find it tasteless, but by the same rules any requirement that 9/11 be a unique point of bipartisan grief-solidarity is also political. Victims of violence are frequently conscripted, rightly, for political ends. I am thinking here of the victims of the Port Arthur shootings, whose memory was rightly used by the then Prime Minister to show leadership and legislate for gun control. Really, Olberman might as well show outrage that either Party uses the non-partisan national icon of the Stars and Stripes in campaigning. Remind me; isn’t the Union flag… a battle flag?
    Short- and long-term historical memory is a powerful political agent in its own right. Objection to its use, more to the point, is also political. The Republicans are flying the flag of assertive victimhood. So? It’s their flag, let ‘em fly it.

  7. Ambigulous

    ‘Twere ever thus, tigtog

    Ex: Josef Stalin rearranges himself as patriot and father of the nation, after being duped by Adolf and seeing Russia invaded. Err… who made the pact with Adolf, pray tell, Josef???

    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

  8. Liam

    Shorter Liam: it’s not cynicism. It’s honesty, just a kind of honesty non-Republicans find distasteful.

  9. tigtog

    Lefty E and silkworm, as requested there is now a Palin interview thread.

    That’s a highly – pragmatic – view, Liam. I still like the concluding point about McCain’s secret plans to catch Bin Laden – surely it is indeed anti-patriotic not to share them with President Bush/Joint Chiefs of Staff/CIA etc immediately?

  10. Liam

    As I’m on a dialup connection the youtube video and thus the reference is beyond me, tigtog, sorry.
    Pragmatic I’ll cop to. Were I a Democratic strategist I’d make much out of the reprehensible Federal response to Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, as illustration of how badly a Government can fail its citizens. That kind of campaign, of course, would be no different in substance to the 9/11™ you describe.

  11. Paulus

    I still like the concluding point about McCain’s secret plans to catch Bin Laden – surely it is indeed anti-patriotic not to share them with President Bush/Joint Chiefs of Staff/CIA etc immediately?

    Oh, for pity’s sake. Of course McCain is not claiming to have any amazing plan to catch OBL, and no one could possibly read his comments with that interpretation, unless they’re being wilfully obtuse.

    “I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden.” Translation: I have better national security credentials than my opponent. That’s all he’s saying — and it’s a perfectly standard thing for a presidential candidate to say.

    Obama’s best response would be to point out that being a decorated fighter pilot is a very different job to being commander-in-chief, and that America’s greatest commanders-in-chief (Lincoln, FDR) never served in the military.

  12. zoot

    Which wars did McCain win?

  13. Katz

    “I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden.” Translation: I have better national security credentials than my opponent. That’s all he’s saying — and it’s a perfectly standard thing for a presidential candidate to say.

    Ronnie Reagan thought that he had fought in the wars depicted in the movies he acted in.

    I guess McCain also had plenty of time to fantasise about his military puissance while dossing down in the Hanoi Hilton.

    It’s an old man’s disease.

  14. Craig Mc

    top political commentator Keith Olbermann…

    I stopped reading right there.

  15. tigtog

    I suspect he’s been following politics with a lot more numbers on his rolodex than you have ever had, Craig Mc.

    Do you read much 9/11 stuff written by actual New Yorkers? In my experience they’re pretty consistent on resenting their dead family and neighbours being co-opted by politicians.

  16. tigtog

    Obama’s best response would be to point out that being a decorated fighter pilot is a very different job to being commander-in-chief, and that America’s greatest commanders-in-chief (Lincoln, FDR) never served in the military.

    Fair point, with the nitpick that McCain was a bomber pilot rather than a fighter pilot, so he didn’t even get to exercise tactics let alone strategy. McCain had to deliver his payload to certain coordinates and then hope like hell that the escorting fighters would deflect attackers on the home run (which obviously didn’t work out for him when he was shot down). Bomber pilots have a very important job, but it doesn’t require much initiative.

  17. Tobias Ziegler

    “I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden.” Translation: I have better national security credentials than my opponent. That’s all he’s saying — and it’s a perfectly standard thing for a presidential candidate to say.

    But implicit in McCain’s statement is also “I have better security credentials than the incumbent”, particularly the comment about bin Laden – he is not suggesting just that he is better equipped than Obama to deal with new national security challenges, but that he is equipped to resolve the challenges that have not been dealt with by the Bush administration. While the “secret plan” line is a facetious one, it does get to the question of what McCain would do differently from Bush.

    Obama’s best response would be to point out that being a decorated fighter pilot is a very different job to being commander-in-chief, and that America’s greatest commanders-in-chief (Lincoln, FDR) never served in the military.

    Wesley Clark, acting as an Obama surrogate, did exactly that not so long ago and triggered a tremendous Republican hissy fit. The Democrats needed to hold fast to Clark’s argument at the time, but they gave ground – as they have been doing again recently with all of the Republican tantrums about Palin.

  18. Andrew E

    Just like Howard and Gallipoli, eh?

    1915 – never forget.