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20 responses to “Guest post by SocProf: When Management Creates Labour Pain”

  1. paul walter

    No one responded to this yet?
    Astonishing.

  2. Kim

    Err, why, Paul? It’s after midnight! Believe it or not, if you look at the site stats, there aren’t too many folk around here at that hour.

    I think it’s a great post – thanks SocProf. In terms of translating some of these concerns into social action, it strikes me that articulating them with the “workplace health and safety” discourse and trying to transform that from within might be productive.

  3. paul walter

    Adelaide follows the more accurate Central Time Zone settings.
    We used to do even better in Adelaide, until our politicians started following the eastern states repressive tolerance measure known as Daylight Saving and surrendered even more of our sequestered sleep time to our employers.

  4. Paulus

    OK, I accept much of this article, but is this really a phenomenon of “New Capitalism”?

    The “intensification of work, the reduction of margins of maneuvers, the disappearance of breathing spaces for employees, and “lack of recognition of crafts” are effectively a product of ‘Fordism’ and ‘Taylorism’ — which are well over 100 years old. They are hardly ‘new’.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management

    And keep in mind, folks, that without Taylorism, every car would be hand-made by craftsmen, and cost as much as a Porsche — and you probably would never be able to afford one.

  5. paul walter

    I’d love to know what Paulus’ theory on home affordability is, then.

  6. Mark

    It’s a little more complex than that, historically, Paulus, because first you get Taylorism, and then you get Fordism which involves reasonable wages, stable work contracts and unionisation, and sits within a particular mode of regulating the capitalist economy which tends towards oligopoly production and corporatist governance at the level of the nation state. What we have now (overall and as a global tendency) is new ways of dividing up and deskilling work often through the nature of the contract as well as through the mode of work organisation. And a globalised mode of production. Hence – post-Fordism.

  7. SocProf

    Thanks to Mark for posting this here.

    To respond to Paulus, I have a book review on Richard Sennett’s The Culture of New Capitalism that addresses what’s specific about the new economy.

  8. Mark

    Pleasure, SocProf – thanks so much for agreeing to cross-post!

  9. Mark

    I meant also to contrast the networked nature of the firm and of the production process with bureaucratic mass production as another significant historical change @ 6.

  10. Paulus

    … Then you get Fordism which involves reasonable wages, stable work contracts and unionisation, and sits within a particular mode of regulating the capitalist economy which tends towards oligopoly production and corporatist governance

    Sure, but it’s still based around ‘conveyor belt’ principles, division of labor, time-and-motion study, deskilling, and so on, isn’t it? And that’s what I read the article to be about. Summed up in one phrase: “the intensification of work”.

    If this creates problems that directly lead to stress and illness, as Huez suggests, then stable contracts and better pay might not help that much.

    But is there any solution? Is productivity a bad thing to focus on? Should we (somehow) try to foster a business culture where targets and deadlines don’t matter? Where companies enjoy monopoly or oligopoly power (like Ford originally), and barely try to compete?

    Dunno. Anyway, SocProf, could you post a link to that review?

  11. Anthony

    Mark, you’re highlighting what in retrospect seem the Good Points of fordism. But the fordist postwar boom can be seen as based on a conjunction which seems anomalous given what went before and what has come after: the deskilling of labour conjoined with rising and secure wages.The odd conjunction explains why, in the early 1970s, writers such as Harry Braverman bemoaned the prevalence of fordist work (ie, deskilled work for men) and, a decade later, writers such a Barry Bluestone and Bennett Harrison were bemoaning its disappearance (ie, high and securely waged work for men):

  12. Mark

    Yes, Anthony, I know that was very schematic. Aspects of Braverman’s critique are a little questionable – for instance the long term trend to deskilling – whereas what tends to happen is deskilling in some occupations/industries combined with the emergence of others which are then deskiled, but I didn’t mean to indulge in some nostalgic Fordism lovin’…

  13. Mark

    Paulus, I think “recognition” is actually the key. Work intensification can be resisted (and not just formally), but it’s much easier to do so on the basis of a secure work contract and employee “voice”.

  14. Liam, Punching The Bundy Clock, Ohh Yeah

    nostalgic Fordism lovin’

    Which is done the same way reliably over and over again, but faster and faster, right?

  15. Robert Merkel

    Interesting post.

    One point I’d take up is that productivity doesn’t have to be the enemy of a rewarding working life.

    Isn’t there a whole strain of management theory about happy, engaged workers being more productive?

  16. Mark

    Yes, there is, and I should have clarified that – what concerns me is the focus on productivity narrowly understood – Gillard, for instance, appears to have decided that limited collective bargaining rights plus flexibility is the sine qua non.

  17. David

    paul @ 3 – You may, like me, remember that golden age when we still had our proper time zone (1 hour behind the eastern states), rather than the bastard child we have now, which was introduced, I think, by Dunstan to get us a bit closer to Melbourne business’ hours (irrelevant in this post-telephone age, I would have thought).

    Oh, by the way, I hate Daylight Saving time as well.

  18. paul walter

    Yes David; remember the times when you could actually get up AFTER the sun rose. Such decadence is unspeakable in these times of bracing reform.
    It was just Dunstan’s (sure it wasn’t Bannon?) fault tho, it was both lots, with big business ominously breathing down the back of their necks, accept for those holding Eyre peninsular farwest electorates, who found themselves up at the equivalent of midnight- for lunch.

  19. Debbieanne

    Thankyou to Mark and SocProf, for this personally interesting post.
    I have first hand experience of ‘suffering at work’. I was diagnosed 10 years ago with fibromyalgia and severe depression, after a couple of years of work related ‘stress’. I am positive that a great deal of my problems came from the lack of recognition, on both a personal level (my work) and the amount of work required. I worked at Centrelink for 13 years, the last five at the supervisor level.

  20. Mark

    I’m glad you found it relevant, Debbieanne.

    The recent stats on the health and safety of Centrelink workers are significant in this regard, I’d suggest as well.