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18 responses to “A Sorry record?”

  1. yeti

    a while ago there was a thread where people were whinging about their various experiences with Centrelink.

    well if you think Clink treats you badly just be thankful that you’re not at the mercy of Howard’s Racial Discrimination Act-violating “Basics Card” system. The stories I’ve heard from NT are outrageous.

  2. Robert Merkel

    I’m looking forward to finishing this book.

    The first chapter, on some of the historical backgroundof the beginnings of “self-determination” in the 1970s, is interesting and provocative, if not entirely convincing that the preferred solutions of many of the people interviewed would actually have worked either.

  3. danny

    Speaking of a Sorry Record: The Sorry Speech, Kev’s honoring of his election “committment to the Australian people that … we would in parliament say sorry to the stolen generations”, recorded in original hand-written draught form, complete with the crossings out and insertions, can be found as a 17 page pdf here .
    It’s an interesting view of The Mind In Chief at work.

  4. pablo

    Yes Robert, Sarah Maddison’s Black Politics is a good read, and very timely given the Rudd Government’s static – dare we say paranoid response – to things such as Mick Dodson’s call for a ‘conversation’ about Australia Day.
    The UNSW academic has done a good job with contemporary interviews of indigenous leaders across the spectrum. As a postscript to former Labor leader Mark Latham siding with Howard on getting rid of ATSIC it is intriguing to read that former elected commissioners are still acting in that de facto capacity because there is nobody else to go and knock on the door as one interviewee put it.

  5. Paul Burns

    Bennelong @ 5,
    Surely you’re not trying to satart a stoush? Perhaps you should read up on the concept of Aboriginality. Then you wouldn’t be so ignorant.

  6. Colin

    Re: Bridging the Gap. Whenever I see a bridge being built, the work commences from both sides. Did any aboriginal leader stand up and accept the apology on behalf of all those that claim aboriginality? Sadly, Kevin’s “Sorry Speech” was just one more political stunt to help put this “little” man into our history books

  7. hannah's dad

    #7
    “Did any aboriginal leader stand up and accept the apology on behalf of all those that claim aboriginality?”

    Yes.
    Several.
    ‘Message Stick’ shows several of them.
    Including one person with a T-shirt with “Thanks” written on it taken with Kev.

    But don’t let that stop you.

  8. Kim

    The offensive comment made by “Bennelong” has been deleted.

  9. joe2

    Good.

  10. hannah's dad

    Oh great!
    Now I’m #7, refuting my own non existent comment which I quote!

    No problem, it just looks funny.

  11. camille

    An apology should have been given to all those that were abused including those children sent from UK during the WW11 to Australia. Some horific stories have emerged regarding their treatment. We are not responsible for what happened out of our lifetime and in those days things were done differently.

  12. joe2

    Yeti mentions the suspension of the Racial Descrimination Act in the N.T. What a bloody disgrace that was, from Howard and co.

    What is keeping Rudd now, though, from dumping the shameful legislation? I just cannot understand how Labor could drag their feet on this one. It is cruel.

  13. Ken Lovell

    Powerful arguments camille – unanswerable I would have said. It’s past time we stopped the whole guilt trip thing and told the darkies to show some gumption, buy a laptop and get a proper job.

    How’s that WA bloke’s project to create 50,000 indigenous jobs in the mining industry going BTW, anyone know? Marvellous initiative … proof of what happens when government gets out of the way of the private sector.

  14. wpd

    Good points Ken. And while we are on the subject of ‘promises’, does anyone know anything about Clive Palmer’s progress re:

    “Mr Palmer says the company is setting up a charitable foundation that will use royalties from an iron ore deal with a Chinese company to assist Aboriginal communities and fund medical research.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/30/2149738.htm

  15. joe2

    “How’s that WA bloke’s project to create 50,000 indigenous jobs in the mining industry going BTW, anyone know?”

    That poor bastard Andrew Forrest, like Gerry Harvey, is down to his last billion or two but still wants to help. ‘Mazing some peoples generosity, really.

  16. Ken Lovell

    Last I heard Forrest had created 7 – 8,000 jobs; well he had promises of them from mates, which is close enough innit? And despite his corporate problems he expected a perfect storm of promises in the new year … wonder how that’s turning out.

    I imagine he’ll get an AM at least.

  17. Adrien

    …pushed Indigenous matters out of the media spotlight this week, that’s nevertheless deeply disappointing.
    .
    Thing is that Indigenous matters have to be pushed in to the media. The latest flurry of interest was precipitated by Tony Jones’ interview with Nannette Rogers where she highlighted the Sadean lawlessness of Aboriginal communities. This was used by such as Andrew Bolt to beat the Left over the head and wax lyrical about the evils of multiculturalism thence leading to the continuation of the Left/Right differing versions of ethnic essentialism and paternalism.
    .
    For five minutes inner city sophisticates, many of whom have never been near the Northern Territory, became expert at solving the problem. And the issue was used as yet another opportunity to fight Culture War battles. In the end we, Left or Right, continued in our traditional modes of knowing best and not listening. Not to mention the old CRM-114 habit of ignoring all facts inconvenient to one’s ideological disposition.
    .
    Rudd issued the Apology which, tho’ probably necessary, was ultimately an empty bit of feel-good symbolism. In the end the long and deep thinking necessary to untangle the range of issues that contribute to this ongoing disaster will not occur simply because on the national scale it simply doesn’t matter enough. Sometime in the future enough this will again be shoved under our noses like a dose of smelling salts and the old ideological ping-pong will obtain once again.
    .
    For five minutes.

  18. Posey

    The Federal Government could hang back because it no longer has a public service that can do much more than formulate endless policies and guidelines to regulate the spending of fiscal grants that it is subsequently unwilling or unable to police.

    But the greatest danger of all is the ever-present politicisation of public administration that bedevils the work of state and federal public servants generally, fed by an evil army of ministerial advisers whose purpose is to divert, disrupt and channel public service outputs to best serve the interests of ministers, political parties, selected private sector interests of money and influence, and always to the detriment of the public interest.

    Fascinating quote in different but comparable context.

    http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2009/02/10/1234028036787.html