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25 responses to “How the biggest bang in 2 million years nearly did us in”

  1. Robert Merkel

    Clearly, the only sensible risk mitigation strategy here is to establish human settlements somewhere other than this little rock.

  2. Peter Kemp

    Interesting post Brian, but wouldn’t Yellowstone National Park (if it blew its lid) be an equivalent “big bang” to lake Toba.

    (Quick quiz: The big bang theory was first postulated by:
    (1) James Bond
    (2) Madonna
    (3) The mayor of Hiroshima when he said “WTF was that?”) :-)

  3. Shaun

    Great post Brian.

    Peter mentions Yellowstone which was the star in a BBC docudrama on supervolcanoes. Some info on Yellowstone and the likelihood of an eruption here.

    Either of the volcanoes having a major eruption would be pretty nasty for us.

  4. Paul Burns

    Brian,
    There’s a history book came out a few years ago called Catastrophe which I think deals with the 353 AD event. (I think it was also a TV doco) I bought it for a friend of mine whose right into End of the World scenarios but read it before I handed it over. Intriguing.

  5. Andrew Reynolds

    As a side point – I remember going on holiday to Toba in the mid 1970s. Beautiful area if you ever get a chance to go there.

  6. aidan

    Brian, how does the more recent NZ supervolcano (wiki: Lake Taupo, North Island, New Zealand – Oruanui eruption ~26,500 years ago (~1,170 km3)) rate? It is less than half the size of Toba but should have had a measurable effect.

    In the last million years two of the four supervolcano events have been in NZ. Perhaps we have more to fear from the Shaky Isles than Indonesia?

  7. Ambigulous

    aidan,

    if Lake Taupo was ~26,500 years ago… by the time the ash had circled the Earth once and reached Australia, was there a major impact on our indigenous inhabitants? Or forests, kangaroos, birds, etc??

  8. hannah's dad

    Stephen Oppenheimer is the author of “Out of Eden” which traces, via DNA analysis, the migration of humans around the planet since the original ‘out of Afica’ event.
    He has quite a discussion on the Toba event and its impact on humans in the area as suggested by archeological evidence in Malaya and elsewhere and DNA analysis in the region.
    He also discusses the probable time of arrival of humans in Australia related to the Toba event, migration here seems a little later than the time of the explosion, by a few thousand years, and from people who originated in Africa itself much earlier and travelled to here in stages along the ‘beach trail’ taking thousands of years to do so.
    I think I read elsewhere that the impact on Aussie flora/fauna would have been minimal because the effect was concentrated more to the west of Toba rather than in our direction. Local impact of these events seem to be greater than global. Don’t quote me on that.
    One of the problems for the relevance of all this sort of stuff to Australia is the relative paucity of research here.
    I spent a couple of weeks at Lake Toba, on the island mainly, about 15 years ago [geez I didn't realize it was so llong ago] its a really nice place.

  9. kingsley

    Aidan – perhaps we better tow NZ away from us? Maybe next to France?

  10. Paul Norton

    I get the impression that Brian would really get into Stephen Baxter’s novels which entail various sticky ends for the Earth and/or Homo Sapiens. Baxter explores the theme of this post in this book

  11. roger

    Thannks for the post Brian. It does indeed seem that there is a range of things that could completely fuck things up for all humanity, rendering inconsequential my worrying about superannuation and whether or not to install a swimming pool to cope with the Alice Springs eternal summer (35 today and projected to be so for the next week- it will be April then!). This is good as I could worry about the merits of filling a hole in the backyard with water from an aquifer that I have heard only has 300 years of water left in it at present usage rates (disclosure if we get a pool we will also be installing tanks- yes I know madness not to have them already but you can only do one thing at a time).

    It is amazing how you can jump around inside wikipedia finding more and more devastating events. Is it designed to be the biggest and best of kinda site? My random hopping left me at the Chicxulub crater. Does anyone know of anything more devastating than a 10km rock slamming into the earth (apart from the big bang- but I don’t actually believe in that)?

  12. Paul Norton

    Roger, this will cheer you up greatly. ;)

  13. Yogi Bear

    Super volcanos? In Jellystone? Quick Boo Boo, grab the pick-a-nick baskets!

  14. Stephen L

    Robert, for the cost of establishing self-sustaining human settlements elsewhere we could not only resolve the damage we’re doing to the planet’s life support systems, but have plenty of change left over to bunkers safe enough to survive events like these.

    In virtually all cases the danger from these events is not that they would wipe out humans as a species, but that they would kill billions and endanger the structure of society for everyone else. Settlements in space won’t fix that.

  15. Robert Merkel

    Stephen L: I’m not suggesting it as a short-term strategy.

    Give it another century or two, and the cost won’t be an issue – assuming we don’t kill ourselves in the meantime.

  16. Mercurius

    You’re such a Cassandra, Brian! ;)

  17. Nick

    Don’t recall where I saw it, but the events of 535-6AD were volcanic in origin,and have been tentatively linked to the caldera forming eruption of Rabaul volcano about 1400 years BP.

  18. pablo

    Can anyone date the huge caldera in northern NSW centred around Dorrigo. It is a significant sight seen from the air.

  19. pablo

    A check of Dorrigo national park reveals Mt Ebor in a volcanic erruption some 18 million years ago.

  20. Anxious Lurker

    youse outdid yourself Brian.

    Now you got me worried.

  21. Shaun

    Pablo, a lot of Australia’s volcanic activity was tens of millions of years ago. So Ebor, Mt Warning etc a pretty much safe for a now (even though they were huge volcanoes in their day).

    Mt Napier in Victoria is the most recent volcano to blow its top. I believe that was about 5,000 years ago.

  22. Brian

    Yep, that’s me all over. I don’t have another act to follow up, so I’ll have to go back to global warming.

    Sorry I haven’t been here all day. I went out and bought a new secondhand ute, I did, and besides it’s my birfday.

    pablo, I remember being very impressed with the Warrumbungles which I think were active as a volcano 13-17 Million years ago.

    Mercurious, I do like the odd bit of gloom. I think it is the stupendous scale and power of nature, in which we seem so vulnerable. As a species we’ve been around only the blink of an eye and are very likely nearer the end than the beginning if you start from, say, Lucy, the hominid Australopithecus afarensis which lived between 3.9 to 3 million years ago. Compared with where the universe has come from and where it’s going to it’s fireflies in the night really.

  23. Brian

    Actually I was thinking about doing a post on holes that open up and swallow your car as you drive along. It happened in Ipswich the other day, but it’s quite common around the world.

    Something else to worry about :)

  24. Brian

    There’s more! A cane toad in Melbourne! Don’t miss the picture gallery.

  25. James Russell

    there is a range of things that could completely fuck things up for all humanity

    Not least of which is humanity itself, of course :)

    I remember Mt Pinatubo well. Some of the volcanic fallout (is that the right term?) actually wound up in the suburbs of Sydney. I have a photo of the family dog from 1991 lying out in the back yard surrounded by this red stuff, which was apparently blown all the way from Mt Pinatubo.