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31 responses to “Explaining Bligh's privatisation push: Search Foundation forum”

  1. kuke

    “Anna Bligh appears captive and supine in the face of business interests, caught up in a spiral of zero sum competition with other Premiers, reliant on a drip feed of donations and jobs from resources industries and others to implement her ostensible economic aims;”

    Amen! If it weren’t for coal, we Queenslanders could advance past the Carbon Age and its fallacy of high employment.

  2. PinkyOz

    Mark, Excellent, right on the money.

    It really is time for governments to work out what needs to be done and do it, the tinkering at the edges and softly softly stuff is getting us nowhere if not sending us backwards.

    In a way, we really don’t help. We have an idea on what could be done about it but we aren’t really doing anything, but what do we do exactly?

    Well, maybe a discussion for another day. Either way, good work and I look forward to hearing more.

    PinkyOz

  3. Hal9000

    A beautiful polemic, Prof Q. I particularly love the bit

    …decades of managerialism have ensconced a drive for constant re-organisation in the public sector, a make work culture of reports on reports and the cult of the Excel spreadsheet, where productive activity is secondary to the reduction of all of us to worker bees in the public part of the capitalist hive, dreaming only of a credit card driven escape.

    How true! In my own agency we’re now required to have weekly meetings to discuss the week’s achievements in relation to the agency ‘score card’. Each meeting takes of course time to prepare, time to write up minutes, time to follow up actions arising etc etc. In other words, a 20% reduction in actual work done.

    In terms of where the privatisation mania has come from, I suspect it’s a rational calculation that the developers and miners have the resources to buy an election for their favoured political party. Against this analysis it must be said that the miners are less than happy that their rail infrastructure is to be made a private monopoly that they don’t control. Look for a softening of the conditions of sale so as to pander to their preferences.

    The recent near disaster on the GBR, with the consequences of pandering to the coal lobby’s deregulatory whims on display, may lead to some public questioning of the wisdom of the bipartisan minerals cargo cult. However with the Murdoch media and the Queensland ABC the sole media outlets for political discussion, I’m pessimistic.

    The sole purpose of winning office in Queensland for the ALP is now to secure the advancement and then comfortable retirements of its leaders and cronies, with the payoff being secured by smooth baton handovers. As a now comfortably retired minister once remarked to me, when I raised the issue of party member discontent, ‘f**k the members!’. Peter Beattie and Terry Mackenroth set the standard that others are keen to emulate.

    In the end, the main outcome of two decades of ALP administration in George St will be seen as the division and emasculation of the impressive political, industrial and social coalition that ousted the Bjelke-Petersen regime. It will take decades to recover.

  4. Fascinated

    Thank you Mark.

  5. Salient Green

    Mark I have only read half so far, so much to do, but I really like to see women get to the top spots in politics especially because as the voting public they seem to prefer the left side according to polls. It is quite disappointing therefore when they get there and succumb to undemocratic pressures just the same as the men do.

    Probably the numbers of women in politics aren’t there yet for them to make a real difference towards family, lifestyle, health and quality of life over economics.

  6. Mole

    Its possibly even a little easier to work out than youve put forward.

    Privatise something and upset 10% of your core vote, who will then vote greens/other. Nearly all those preferences flow back to you anyway.

    Raise taxes in other areas to pay for long term investment, upset 100% of your swinging voters who will vote for lib/nat to get you out.

    Another attraction of option 1 is you can then accuse the lib/nat of bing “wreckers” when they do the same thing. You then get that 10% of your core back, and appear to have “Labor values”.

  7. Hal9000

    Mole

    Privatise something and upset 10% of your core vote, who will then vote greens/other. Nearly all those preferences flow back to you anyway.

    Not so, Mole. As Prof Q points out, the optional preferential voting system in Qld renders this calculation risky at best.

  8. wpd

    A really, really good analysis. Congratulations.

    As for:

    The sole purpose of winning office in Queensland for the ALP is now to secure the advancement and then comfortable retirements of its leaders and cronies, with the payoff being secured by smooth baton handovers. As a now comfortably retired minister once remarked to me, when I raised the issue of party member discontent, ‘f**k the members!’. Peter Beattie and Terry Mackenroth set the standard that others are keen to emulate.

    That resonates. So many created jobs filled by so many cronies. FGS, Bredhauer as Trade Commissioner re the People’s Republic of China and Vietnam as well as a lobbyist for – whoever.

  9. Mark

    @3 and 7 – this is the text of my talk, Hal9000, not John Quiggin’s. His is linked at the end of the post.

  10. p.a.travers

    That was like a Van Gogh painting-well thought through ad presented,watch that ear though!

  11. Hal9000

    @9 Oops, Mark. As others have said, congratulations.

    I rally must learn not to skip over the introductory paragraphs.

  12. Nicholas Gruen

    Certainly I always admired the fact that not only didn’t Peter Beattie go after the spiv PPP story – as good a touchstone of economic illiteracy as you can find (It’s amazing who tried to sell this smelly cat – most Aust state premiers, quite a few US states and Tony Blair! Very sad, and it’s hard to think of charitable explanations as to why they got up to it – were they knaves or fools?). Beattie actually talked about investing Qld’s capital in other states – at the inflated rates of return the PPP partners were requiring to make the investments which was quite a nice way of showing them up.

  13. Brian

    Ideology, stripped of ideas and a social purpose, reveals itself as irrationality, venality and stupidity.

    In spades!

  14. Mole

    Hal9000

    Thanks for pointing that out I misread what that meant in the article.Not a bad idea that optional preferences.
    Or is there a downside to that Im unaware of?

  15. Brian

    Mole, from the POV of voters I think it’s all good. It means you don’t have to express a preference for candidates you think would be entirely unsuitable in government (assuming of course that there is at least one on offer who passes muster).

  16. Fran Barlow

    Except Brian@13 and Mark above, that ideology is always an expression ideas, social purposes and associated cultural practice. Every cultural practice of humans is in one sense or another ideological. The idea of an “ideology” without ideas seems perverse on the face of it. One need go no further than the structure of the term to see that.

    To derogate something as irrational, venal and stupid is to assert the possibility of reason and altruism and at the same time, to assert that these embody virtue where the others entail or instantiate vice. Whether one is entitled to describe a competing set of cultural assumptions in these terms or not, neither thesis nor antithesis spring from nowhere. Both are rooted in human usage and driven by conceptions of virtue in private conduct and public policy. That one body of practice may appear incoherent and unsustainable doesn’t and can’t arise from it being free of social purpose or ideas.

    Even the most profoundly socially destructive and corrosive policies had some ideas and social purpose behind them.

  17. John D

    Good one Mark. It helps to look beyond the incompetent/right wing crazy discussion.
    The irony is that Joh would have resolved the financial problem by either putting up coal mining royalties or the charges for railing coal. He was smart enough to understand that the coal industry was not going to collapse as a result of increased charges and that most voters believed the coal mining companies were ripping off the state anyway.
    I was working in central Qld when Wayne Goss silly enough cut rail charges to the coal miners. The outcome was a cut in export prices. So the Japanese got cheaper coal, the company profits remained the same. the mine workers got nothing and the state had less money to spend on services. This is part of the problem with Labor. It has become so concerned about demonstrating that it is business friendly and is going to keep Qld the “low tax state” that it has forgotten why its supporters voted for them in the first place.
    It is interesting to look at summaries of what various governments have achieved. What stands out in these summaries is just how much the Whitlam government compared with other governments that had much longer tenures. The lesson for Bligh et al is that it is what is achieved rather than how long you can get paid for doing little that counts in the long term.

  18. Paul Norton

    I was there and I applauded Mark and John Q (and Pat Ranald, and Peter Simpson). I take the opportunity to do so again.

  19. Paul Norton

    And the Beattie government, perhaps suffused in something of a nostalgic glow now that we know what came next, pioneered an industry policy agenda based around human capital and endogenous growth theory, emblazoned as ‘The Smart State’. Much of this strategy, though continuing to influence the thinking of Rudd Labor, and Wayne Swan in particular, was dismantled by the Bligh regime.

    Quite so. In place of the “Smart State” strategy there is a notional State strategy called Tomorrow’s Queensland or Q2 which is basically a shopping list of worthy aspirations which don’t really seem to have had much influence on major State government decisions under the current Premier.

  20. Mark

    Thanks, folks, I appreciate the comments, and I’m very glad that people have found my thoughts worthwhile. I thought it was a positive event, though it’s also important not to discount the full force of the anger and disillusionment felt, particularly among union members and those who’ve been active in the Labour movement and/or Labor Party over a long period of time. But I was very heartened that there was a general feeling that some positives can come out of this imbroglio, and that campaigns around it need not be purely defensive. I’m also heartened by some chats after the event which hold out the promise of further developing the agenda I sketched in the last part of the talk.

  21. Mark

    I’ll also flag the fact that I intend to come back and reply to some of the individual contributions made on this thread when I have more time free of work demands.

  22. Mole

    Mark

    In your opinion is there any chance some of the unions might start to seriously look at transferring their alegience/funding over to the greens on issues like this.
    At a purely state level I mean.
    Other than that I cant see effective pressure being brought on the State government?

  23. James Haughton

    Ted Theodore would be another great example of someone from Queensland Labor who was unafraid of putting forward radical policies.
    “State governments have little power to stucture really distinctive outcomes outside service delivery.” I’d like to respectfully disagree with this. There are a large number of options within the powers of state governments that pay for themselves, have positive social outcomes and are investment friendly. Examples include promoting more green, medium density housing, probably by implementing an unimproved land value tax, levying higher and more transparent royalties on natural resources after the manner of Alaska with the Alaska Permanent Fund, levying more Pigouvian taxes (e.g. higher excise on tobacco, alcohol and gambling and taxes on waste and pollution generally), and, on the tax relief and freedom side, abolishing payroll tax (a disincentive to employment), stamp duty (a disincentive to housing investment), and legalising recreational pharmaceuticals that don’t promote aggressive behaviour, such as marijuana and ecstacy (which would be excised). Introducing an unimproved land value tax also makes swathes of building regulation and restricted land releases less necessary as it creates financial disincentives for shoddy development.
    As far as I can tell these are all state government level policy decisions. The Green Tax Shift is within the reach of any state government with a modicum of vision, i.e. none of them.

  24. Chuck

    As a general comment I can’t help seeing parallels between the theme Guy Rundle was attempting to raise (pithily, if entertainingly, as is GR’s style) on the earlier thread regarding apparent systemic management failures during Black Saturday, and the points Mark raises rather more eloquently here.

    This “failure of imagination” and an inability to invisage change seems to me to be a key issue, I think. It informs a sense of general powerlessness, for not only modern politics and the public service that supports it, but for the general public at times as well (global warming anyone?).

  25. John Quiggin

    I hadn’t caught up with the official abandonment of the Smart State strategy (though it was obvious in practical terms). Confirms me in my view that it’s time to give Labor a spell in Opposition where they can do some rethinking.

  26. Paul Norton

    John, strictly speaking Smart State hasn’t been officially abandoned as in theory the Smart State Strategy 2008-2012 is still in place. However it’s telling that there have been no Smart State progress reports since 2007, the Smart State website has not been updated since 2008 and there have been no Smart State newsletters since 2008. Like the central character in Johnny Got His Gun, Smart State has been wheeled downstairs and out of sight of the living into a hospital basement on drip feed.

  27. Mervyn Langford

    Great read Mark. Great focus and impetus for all of us concerned about how this government is trampling our present and writing off our future – for the sake of what?
    Unfortunately the LNP (heaven forbid they ever become a Qld government at any time!), can sit back and let Anna B take the flak for privatizing. They hope they pick up government after we, the citizens, finally trash her electorally. And they can rest easy as privatization will then be a fact of life.
    Love your reminder about Qld being a world leader in so many progressive ways.
    Let’s hope we can do it again.

  28. Kim

    Great piece, Mark.

    @25 and 26 – the thing with the trashing of the Smart State strategy is also that it sends a pretty negative message to those of us who aren’t idiots or rapacious vultures willing to feed on the crums from the resource industry table and would also actually like to lead a creative and productive and satisfying life in this State.

  29. Ryan

    The role of the premier in QLD is not that of a state governor or official, it is now a role of balancing the coal industry with popular opinion while keeping the books out of the red. The role is unclear, and it is attracting unsuitable candidates.

  30. kuke

    Dumb to the Smart State and blind to the Sunshine in the State.

  31. Danny

    Not taking anything away from the other speakers’ efforts, but for me the most interesting bit was Dr Patricia Ranald (Australian Fair Trade and Investment Network) telling how it is that we, via Hpward, having signed on to Free Trade Agreements, the AUSFTA in particular, means that after privatisation it would be illegal for the state to direct that, for example, there be a certain proactive minimum level of employment by the company in the regions. I gather that as long as the firms are still in ‘public’ hands, they are exempt from these FTA strictures, and the state has some discretionary powers.
    The example Dr Ranald used was the mooted privatisation ( by Vic, NSW, and the Feds) of the Snowy Maountains Hydro business. Howard backed down from the plan under figleaf cover of a “There is overwhelming feeling in the community that the Snowy is an icon” arguement, when in fact it had more to do with legal opinion that government claims they could and would restrict foreign ownership was just so much pissing in the wind.
    Howard walked away from the deal rather than have to admit and expose the repercussions of his signing the AUSFTA.
    We all better hope health care provision systems don’t ever get piratised, otherwise we will be bound to having a US style worst practice ( except in terms of operators profits) model thrust upon us.