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This story is gaining momentum faster than the “Abbott Budget Fightback” on Google News aggregator.
A rear-guard action seems to be opening up with an illegal immigrant/population growth hysteria kicked-off by John Pasquarelli writing for The Australian.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/abbott-should-run-a-mile-from-big-australia-policy/story-e6frg6zo-1225867925050
Hey, it’s already yielding results, “Illegal Workers” sensationalism.
This story is gaining momentum faster than the “Abbott Budget Fightback” on Google News aggregator.
A rear-guard action seems to be opening up with an illegal immigrant/population growth hysteria kicked-off by John Pasquarelli writing for The Australian.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/abbott-should-run-a-mile-from-big-australia-policy/story-e6frg6zo-1225867925050
Hey, it’s already yielding results, “Illegal Workers” sensationalism.
Labor love that photo of Abbott, we got a flyer about his tenure as Health Minister in the mail yesterday with the very same pic on it. It’s a very effective piece actually.
We also got an interesting “survey” from Senator Minchin. Anyone else getting a lot of political material, or is this what life in the marginals for the next few months is going to be like?
Labor love that photo of Abbott, we got a flyer about his tenure as Health Minister in the mail yesterday with the very same pic on it. It’s a very effective piece actually.
We also got an interesting “survey” from Senator Minchin. Anyone else getting a lot of political material, or is this what life in the marginals for the next few months is going to be like?
Gift horse, mouth?
Gift horse, mouth?
Oooh and in scary black and white too. Hey did I miss the election announcement?
Oooh and in scary black and white too. Hey did I miss the election announcement?
That ad is just what so many of us hate about politics – some creep with an annoying voice going on about nothing – it’s just games that politicians think we care about.
I can’t stand Tony Abbott (or Kevin Rudd) and I don’t think he’s intelligent, but there’s a difference between conversation and a policy, between expressing an opinion/desire and what actually comes out of a party policy forming process. It’s pathetic that this kind of stuff takes up the space that should be used for analysis.
I can’t remember whether I read this or heard it on the BBC but someone commented that the tory/libdem coalition forming arrangement worked out well for both parties since, by way of ‘compromise and cooperation’ they both dropped policies that in fact the leadership of the parties hadn’t wanted in their platforms anyway. Those policies had been put there to appeal to some extreme of their constituencies, and weren’t likely to have ever been implemented, and now they had the perfect rationale for jettisoning them. That’s politics – who would be surprised.
That ad is just what so many of us hate about politics – some creep with an annoying voice going on about nothing – it’s just games that politicians think we care about.
I can’t stand Tony Abbott (or Kevin Rudd) and I don’t think he’s intelligent, but there’s a difference between conversation and a policy, between expressing an opinion/desire and what actually comes out of a party policy forming process. It’s pathetic that this kind of stuff takes up the space that should be used for analysis.
I can’t remember whether I read this or heard it on the BBC but someone commented that the tory/libdem coalition forming arrangement worked out well for both parties since, by way of ‘compromise and cooperation’ they both dropped policies that in fact the leadership of the parties hadn’t wanted in their platforms anyway. Those policies had been put there to appeal to some extreme of their constituencies, and weren’t likely to have ever been implemented, and now they had the perfect rationale for jettisoning them. That’s politics – who would be surprised.
There are ‘core’ statements … and ‘non-core’ statements, it would seem. Oh dear.
There are ‘core’ statements … and ‘non-core’ statements, it would seem. Oh dear.
Smuggles also reckoned (around the time of the republic referendum) that you just can’t trust a politician. I find myself in agreement, Tones.
Smuggles also reckoned (around the time of the republic referendum) that you just can’t trust a politician. I find myself in agreement, Tones.
@5 –
There’s lots of space on the blog to go around, Russell. And I think the intention of posting it was probably to enable people to make whatever comment they want on it.
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There’s lots of space on the blog to go around, Russell. And I think the intention of posting it was probably to enable people to make whatever comment they want on it.
I think we’ve seen Smuggles’ Latham Moment.
I figured the ALP would be using this, but that’s pretty bloody quick.
I think we’ve seen Smuggles’ Latham Moment.
I figured the ALP would be using this, but that’s pretty bloody quick.
Let me guess. The Australian, the Telegraph and the ABC tomorrow…what will their narrative be….
…that’s right boys and girls. “Rudd and ALP play the man and not the ball….”
As Ackbar would say “It’s a trap!”
Let me guess. The Australian, the Telegraph and the ABC tomorrow…what will their narrative be….
…that’s right boys and girls. “Rudd and ALP play the man and not the ball….”
As Ackbar would say “It’s a trap!”
Mark – I meant takes up space in the media, not on this blog. The media makes these distracting stories seem like the main game.
Mark – I meant takes up space in the media, not on this blog. The media makes these distracting stories seem like the main game.
Russell
You miss the key point. Wjhat actual policies partyies devise and are likely to implement is one thing of interest to us here. The other thing is the ways in which they mobilsie the constituencies needed to achieve their policies.
What comes out of Abbott’s mouth here is his view of how to position himself to lock in constituency support.
Allowing the man to have incompatible consituencies — in this case the anti- taxes on business and the populist tax business for motherhood constituencies by lying is allowing him to cheat, in just the way that someone in a swimming race cheats if they take drugs and wear flippers when the others can’t.
Not pretending you mean something when it’s just a thought bubble is one of the big rules. Thinking things through before you open your mouth is another. Break that rule and the other side gets to cry foul.
So the attack ad is perfectly legitimate. Abbott is either a moron or an evasive and disingenuous huckster, and probably both depending which hour of the day you catch him and how his budgie is feeling. Having such a person as PM would be a bad thing.
I’m no fan of Kevin Rudd, clearly, but he is plainly relatively more intellectually competent and professionally better placed to manage the interests of the elites than is Abbott, who would compensate for his incompetence and feelings of inadequacy with banality, pork-barrelling and policy malice directed at the populace.
Russell
You miss the key point. Wjhat actual policies partyies devise and are likely to implement is one thing of interest to us here. The other thing is the ways in which they mobilsie the constituencies needed to achieve their policies.
What comes out of Abbott’s mouth here is his view of how to position himself to lock in constituency support.
Allowing the man to have incompatible consituencies — in this case the anti- taxes on business and the populist tax business for motherhood constituencies by lying is allowing him to cheat, in just the way that someone in a swimming race cheats if they take drugs and wear flippers when the others can’t.
Not pretending you mean something when it’s just a thought bubble is one of the big rules. Thinking things through before you open your mouth is another. Break that rule and the other side gets to cry foul.
So the attack ad is perfectly legitimate. Abbott is either a moron or an evasive and disingenuous huckster, and probably both depending which hour of the day you catch him and how his budgie is feeling. Having such a person as PM would be a bad thing.
I’m no fan of Kevin Rudd, clearly, but he is plainly relatively more intellectually competent and professionally better placed to manage the interests of the elites than is Abbott, who would compensate for his incompetence and feelings of inadequacy with banality, pork-barrelling and policy malice directed at the populace.
@11 – Sorry, Russell, misunderstood the comment.
@11 – Sorry, Russell, misunderstood the comment.
Classic video: The Mad Abbott on The Chaser …
Spread it around …
Classic video: The Mad Abbott on The Chaser …
Spread it around …
Bring back Turnbull.
Bring back Turnbull.
Tony – you gave them this on a plate.
Almost in the same league as Gordon Brown’s Bigot moment of honesty.
Tony – you gave them this on a plate.
Almost in the same league as Gordon Brown’s Bigot moment of honesty.
It’s a modest breeze in a tepid mug of tea.
It’s a modest breeze in a tepid mug of tea.
Tony is more than a “tepid mug” Jacques. He’s a compulsive liar as the old Cuppa video also indicates.
People need to know he cannot be trusted.
Tony is more than a “tepid mug” Jacques. He’s a compulsive liar as the old Cuppa video also indicates.
People need to know he cannot be trusted.
But the fix is in. The SMH devotes a full page, complete with colourful cartoons showing past PMs doing ‘backflips’ to tell us that, hey, all politicians lie.
Their chief Abbott apologist Lenore Taylor gravely informs us that the ‘spin’ that the ALP has put on this is as excruciating as the interview itself.
There you go boys and girls, nothing to see here, let’s move on to the latest Rudd ‘backflip’.
But the fix is in. The SMH devotes a full page, complete with colourful cartoons showing past PMs doing ‘backflips’ to tell us that, hey, all politicians lie.
Their chief Abbott apologist Lenore Taylor gravely informs us that the ‘spin’ that the ALP has put on this is as excruciating as the interview itself.
There you go boys and girls, nothing to see here, let’s move on to the latest Rudd ‘backflip’.
Cancelled, adrian. Scoop @Australian, of all places, adds to the inadvertent and new ‘Libs sellout to mining’ meme.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/liberal-michael-johnson-sought-12m-windfall-with-secret-china-deal/story-e6frg6nf-1225868416025
Cancelled, adrian. Scoop @Australian, of all places, adds to the inadvertent and new ‘Libs sellout to mining’ meme.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/liberal-michael-johnson-sought-12m-windfall-with-secret-china-deal/story-e6frg6nf-1225868416025
An eveb better tactic as shown on ABC2 this morning, is pretend it never happened and go on endlessly about what Joe Hockey might talk about at the Press Club later today.
An eveb better tactic as shown on ABC2 this morning, is pretend it never happened and go on endlessly about what Joe Hockey might talk about at the Press Club later today.
Yes, it seems that the ABC has a rather bad case of collective amnesia about this issue. I’m sure it’s just completely coincidental that everyone seems to have forgotten about it at the same time.
Yes, it seems that the ABC has a rather bad case of collective amnesia about this issue. I’m sure it’s just completely coincidental that everyone seems to have forgotten about it at the same time.
Adrian, you’re seeing blues under teh bed, dude. Taylor’s piece was fine; not everything can be a weepy panegyric to Labor, lol.
Adrian, you’re seeing blues under teh bed, dude. Taylor’s piece was fine; not everything can be a weepy panegyric to Labor, lol.
I reckon this is a bit more than just the old “all politicians lie” meme. This is Abbott just saying what he thinks his audience wants to hear .. compulsively. Not good enough.
I reckon this is a bit more than just the old “all politicians lie” meme. This is Abbott just saying what he thinks his audience wants to hear .. compulsively. Not good enough.
Correction, patrickg – nothing can be a weepy panegyric to Labor. It is simply not allowed, dude.
Correction, patrickg – nothing can be a weepy panegyric to Labor. It is simply not allowed, dude.
Tony Abbott says politicians exaggerate, ALP releases an ad titled ‘You can’t trust anything he says’.
Gosh. That sounds a bit like an exaggeration. Possibly even a lie. Whoopsie!
Tony Abbott says politicians exaggerate, ALP releases an ad titled ‘You can’t trust anything he says’.
Gosh. That sounds a bit like an exaggeration. Possibly even a lie. Whoopsie!
So Speaks The Mad Monk
Since Rasputin, mad monks have held sway
Now we have our own, to celebrate today.
“His speech is passionate and intense”,
Says Barnaby on, his side of the fence.
Though confused once more and silly,
Barnaby again speaks from his willy.
Question not what the Abbot says is true,
As Ad libs find him clearly in the poo.
Scripted gospel, much rehearsed and vetted
Contains mindless madness, closely fettered.
But “straight talking Tony”, lauds our Joe,
“Is an honest man, as this gaff does show!”
Deep in shadows of parliament halls,
Whispers and jests fuel the downfalls
Echoes from the chambers of the right,
Bid all farewell and Tony goodnight.
Then may he whisper to his lady fair,
“What about me Maggie? I want my share!”
Cheryl
So Speaks The Mad Monk
Since Rasputin, mad monks have held sway
Now we have our own, to celebrate today.
“His speech is passionate and intense”,
Says Barnaby on, his side of the fence.
Though confused once more and silly,
Barnaby again speaks from his willy.
Question not what the Abbot says is true,
As Ad libs find him clearly in the poo.
Scripted gospel, much rehearsed and vetted
Contains mindless madness, closely fettered.
But “straight talking Tony”, lauds our Joe,
“Is an honest man, as this gaff does show!”
Deep in shadows of parliament halls,
Whispers and jests fuel the downfalls
Echoes from the chambers of the right,
Bid all farewell and Tony goodnight.
Then may he whisper to his lady fair,
“What about me Maggie? I want my share!”
Cheryl
@26
Ah some desperate paraphrasing, Abbott would be proud of you. I want a go! Abbott said you can’t trust everything I say, ALP ad says ‘You can’t trust anything he says’. Fair comment? You bet!
@26
Ah some desperate paraphrasing, Abbott would be proud of you. I want a go! Abbott said you can’t trust everything I say, ALP ad says ‘You can’t trust anything he says’. Fair comment? You bet!
Sorry to go OT for a moment, but speaking of political ads, this is just too funny to keep to myself.
http://minx.cc/?post=301639
It’s easy to read this all wrong, of course, but still… it’s just too perfect for words, even if it scratches all yr itches, what can I do, gold is gold.
Sorry to go OT for a moment, but speaking of political ads, this is just too funny to keep to myself.
http://minx.cc/?post=301639
It’s easy to read this all wrong, of course, but still… it’s just too perfect for words, even if it scratches all yr itches, what can I do, gold is gold.
“Allowing the man to have incompatible consituencies — in this case the anti- taxes on business and the populist tax business for motherhood constituencies by lying is allowing him to cheat”
Fran, I see your point, but the reason I cited the story of how happy the tories and libdems were to ‘trade-off’ some of their policies is that I think that’s typical. Measured against some ideal concept of integrity they’re all cheats all the time! (Except the Greens aren’t as bad)
Both the ALP and Libs want to appeal to everybody. It’s understood that the ALP might not be as kind to business and the Libs may not be as kind to the environment etc, but they will both lie/cheat to say that they will serve everybody’s interests. There isn’t a constituency they won’t pander to.
“Allowing the man to have incompatible consituencies — in this case the anti- taxes on business and the populist tax business for motherhood constituencies by lying is allowing him to cheat”
Fran, I see your point, but the reason I cited the story of how happy the tories and libdems were to ‘trade-off’ some of their policies is that I think that’s typical. Measured against some ideal concept of integrity they’re all cheats all the time! (Except the Greens aren’t as bad)
Both the ALP and Libs want to appeal to everybody. It’s understood that the ALP might not be as kind to business and the Libs may not be as kind to the environment etc, but they will both lie/cheat to say that they will serve everybody’s interests. There isn’t a constituency they won’t pander to.
Yes comment 26 is typical of the lying contortionists known as the Liberal Party and their acolytes.
TA DID NOT say that politicians exaggerate. What he said was that we shouldn’t take what he says in an unscripted utterance as the truth. Only when he is delivering a scripted utterence can we be confident that this is the truth.
Do you understand the difference, TimT?
The additional problem Mr Abbott has of course is that he said the above in an unscripted interview, so are we entitled to assume that it wasn’t the truth.
We are entering a truly bizarre parallel universe where this kind of behaviour is being justified with articles suggesting that its OK to lie if it’s all in the cause of getting rid of the Rudd government, or Abbott is just being honest about telling fibs.
Sheesh, if Rudd had turned in a performance like that, we’d have half the press gallery questioning his mental stability, and the other half agreeing with them.
Yes comment 26 is typical of the lying contortionists known as the Liberal Party and their acolytes.
TA DID NOT say that politicians exaggerate. What he said was that we shouldn’t take what he says in an unscripted utterance as the truth. Only when he is delivering a scripted utterence can we be confident that this is the truth.
Do you understand the difference, TimT?
The additional problem Mr Abbott has of course is that he said the above in an unscripted interview, so are we entitled to assume that it wasn’t the truth.
We are entering a truly bizarre parallel universe where this kind of behaviour is being justified with articles suggesting that its OK to lie if it’s all in the cause of getting rid of the Rudd government, or Abbott is just being honest about telling fibs.
Sheesh, if Rudd had turned in a performance like that, we’d have half the press gallery questioning his mental stability, and the other half agreeing with them.
@26 – yep, Tony Abbott didn’t make any claim about politicians other than that he cannot be trusted. I’d also point out that the interview with Neil Mitchell on radio is hardly “the heat of the moment”, unless he’s incapable of giving considered answers when interviewed on radio.
@26 – yep, Tony Abbott didn’t make any claim about politicians other than that he cannot be trusted. I’d also point out that the interview with Neil Mitchell on radio is hardly “the heat of the moment”, unless he’s incapable of giving considered answers when interviewed on radio.
j_p_z – very appealing. He’s wearing the white hat, so he must be the good one (and it’s so admirably spotless). Barnaby should include a horse in his election ads.
Thinking of the infallible back/white dress indicator of character reminds me of the burqa – the nearest thing we saw to face-covering, before the burqa, was theose ‘black ninjas’ in The Samurai TV program. Faces covered, black, baddies.
j_p_z – very appealing. He’s wearing the white hat, so he must be the good one (and it’s so admirably spotless). Barnaby should include a horse in his election ads.
Thinking of the infallible back/white dress indicator of character reminds me of the burqa – the nearest thing we saw to face-covering, before the burqa, was theose ‘black ninjas’ in The Samurai TV program. Faces covered, black, baddies.
JPZ, I’m speechless.
Particularly at the bit at about 51″ where he waves the rifle at the camera with his finger inside the trigger guard. Behind my desk in a windowless room in Sydney, I ducked.
JPZ, I’m speechless.
Particularly at the bit at about 51″ where he waves the rifle at the camera with his finger inside the trigger guard. Behind my desk in a windowless room in Sydney, I ducked.
Yeah Liam, I thought the Elmer Bernstein score was a nice touch, too. Come to think of it, the guy does carry himself a bit like Yul Brynner…
Yeah Liam, I thought the Elmer Bernstein score was a nice touch, too. Come to think of it, the guy does carry himself a bit like Yul Brynner…
Of course he can’t be trusted. By the nature of their profession, politicians lie. Constantly and brazenly.
Often they lie deliberately. Sometimes they make a statement they haven’t checked, and sometimes they promise before they know what’s possible.
The only news is that Abbott discussed the, er, nuances of lying to the public. In a sense he was exhibiting meta-honesty. Race-callers will find it foolish, his detractors will fling it in his face, but I suspect most of the professionals will secretly agree.
Of course he can’t be trusted. By the nature of their profession, politicians lie. Constantly and brazenly.
Often they lie deliberately. Sometimes they make a statement they haven’t checked, and sometimes they promise before they know what’s possible.
The only news is that Abbott discussed the, er, nuances of lying to the public. In a sense he was exhibiting meta-honesty. Race-callers will find it foolish, his detractors will fling it in his face, but I suspect most of the professionals will secretly agree.
I love that sinister burr during the ad, but really, Karl Bitar should have left it alone. Personally, I would have gone for point-and-laugh over dark-and-sinister. The latter hands too much power to TA.
I love that sinister burr during the ad, but really, Karl Bitar should have left it alone. Personally, I would have gone for point-and-laugh over dark-and-sinister. The latter hands too much power to TA.
I expected it to play out worse for Tony Abbott than it has. Perhaps the public are more accepting of politicians lying (refreshing to hear one admit it?).
The interview was a tad surreal, Kerry O’Brien was trying to goad Abbott into blowing his stack (to atone for the sin of the previous week), & Abbott – usually a plain speaker – was about as confusing as I have ever heard him.
My money is on him rueing the moment he spoke those words.
I expected it to play out worse for Tony Abbott than it has. Perhaps the public are more accepting of politicians lying (refreshing to hear one admit it?).
The interview was a tad surreal, Kerry O’Brien was trying to goad Abbott into blowing his stack (to atone for the sin of the previous week), & Abbott – usually a plain speaker – was about as confusing as I have ever heard him.
My money is on him rueing the moment he spoke those words.
Furthermore, JPZ, I note that the video appears not to have gone viral—it’s gone virile.
Furthermore, JPZ, I note that the video appears not to have gone viral—it’s gone virile.
As was demonstrated from the very moment he ascended the leadership of his party, the ALP takes Tony Abbott VERY seriously, and we can expect ads to appear quicksmart every time Abbott provides them with raw material that can be made into negative advertising.
As was demonstrated from the very moment he ascended the leadership of his party, the ALP takes Tony Abbott VERY seriously, and we can expect ads to appear quicksmart every time Abbott provides them with raw material that can be made into negative advertising.
SATP, I’ve often thought you inhabit a different universe to the rest of us, and now I’m sure of it.
Red Kezza didn’t goad Abbott into anything – he didn’t need to. Just allowing enough silence for Abbott to speak into was sufficient.
As for Abbott being a plain speaker, WTF do you lace your beer with?
SATP, I’ve often thought you inhabit a different universe to the rest of us, and now I’m sure of it.
Red Kezza didn’t goad Abbott into anything – he didn’t need to. Just allowing enough silence for Abbott to speak into was sufficient.
As for Abbott being a plain speaker, WTF do you lace your beer with?
There’s no ‘raw material’ or ‘made into’ about it, SATP. He hands his own negative advertising to them, somewhere between well done and overcooked, on a Wedgewood plate. With wedges.
There’s no ‘raw material’ or ‘made into’ about it, SATP. He hands his own negative advertising to them, somewhere between well done and overcooked, on a Wedgewood plate. With wedges.
Come on Jacques@36 you are trying to polish a turd like some in the media are attempting. We are talking about a prospective P.M. here and he is not “exhibiting meta-honesty”.
There is no excuse for lying. Admitting you do it, when pressed with cold hard evidence that you have, just means you have been caught in the act.
Come on Jacques@36 you are trying to polish a turd like some in the media are attempting. We are talking about a prospective P.M. here and he is not “exhibiting meta-honesty”.
There is no excuse for lying. Admitting you do it, when pressed with cold hard evidence that you have, just means you have been caught in the act.
Joe2 – Jacques knows a lot about politicians since he is one
(or was one at the last election for the “guns == freedom” ratbags)
Joe2 – Jacques knows a lot about politicians since he is one
(or was one at the last election for the “guns == freedom” ratbags)
A very imperfect catholic.
A very imperfect catholic.
FMark @45, I dunno, Abbott’s whole demeanour in that interview (and, with hindsight, before it) strikes me as exemplary of a certain kind of Catholic habit of mind: the regular purge of the confessional and the deeply felt conviction that as long as you spill your guts regularly (and as the great Fran Leibowitz once remarked, spilling your gits is just exactly as charming as it sounds) and say your Hail Marys or nip down the shop for a packet of fags for the priest or whatever penance it is that you’ve been given this time, then God will forgive you and it’ll all be all right on the night. Abbott doesn’t seem to have quite cottoned on that the function of the confessional stands in precise opposition to the function of national television.
FMark @45, I dunno, Abbott’s whole demeanour in that interview (and, with hindsight, before it) strikes me as exemplary of a certain kind of Catholic habit of mind: the regular purge of the confessional and the deeply felt conviction that as long as you spill your guts regularly (and as the great Fran Leibowitz once remarked, spilling your gits is just exactly as charming as it sounds) and say your Hail Marys or nip down the shop for a packet of fags for the priest or whatever penance it is that you’ve been given this time, then God will forgive you and it’ll all be all right on the night. Abbott doesn’t seem to have quite cottoned on that the function of the confessional stands in precise opposition to the function of national television.
And yes, I think he’s spilled a few gits this time too. God I love typos. Freud rules.
And yes, I think he’s spilled a few gits this time too. God I love typos. Freud rules.
Oh, how I wish the Liberal party would spill its gits. Trouble is there would be no one left.
Oh, how I wish the Liberal party would spill its gits. Trouble is there would be no one left.
David Irving #41. Red Kerry certainly didn’t goad Abbott into anything, but not for want of trying!
Beer unlaced, I don’t drink the stuff. But perhaps you should hightail it from “universe David Irving” & rejoin the rest of us. For contrary to your assertation, Tony Abbott (who is many things) is not incomprehensible, I refer you to the utterances of his opposite number, that’ll have you groping for a theo-saw-us.
Abbott’s speaking is actually very “dickhead-friendly”, something of which Rudd’s minders and the ALP campaign directors are ruefully too well aware.
David Irving #41. Red Kerry certainly didn’t goad Abbott into anything, but not for want of trying!
Beer unlaced, I don’t drink the stuff. But perhaps you should hightail it from “universe David Irving” & rejoin the rest of us. For contrary to your assertation, Tony Abbott (who is many things) is not incomprehensible, I refer you to the utterances of his opposite number, that’ll have you groping for a theo-saw-us.
Abbott’s speaking is actually very “dickhead-friendly”, something of which Rudd’s minders and the ALP campaign directors are ruefully too well aware.
But there isn’t already and that’s their whole problem. I blame Howard.
But there isn’t already and that’s their whole problem. I blame Howard.
@49: SATP – Are you calling yourself a dickhead?
@49: SATP – Are you calling yourself a dickhead?
Pretend no 49 for flow. Nothing personal SATP.
Pretend no 49 for flow. Nothing personal SATP.
No Zoot, SATP isn’t calling himself a dickhead. He just claims to have an intimate knowledge of the usages and culture of the dickhead community.
Unlike us, he doesn’t have any bias against dickheads and accepts them as part of the rich tapestry in his life at the pub, frequently posing as one for a lark when in company.
Doubtless they have secret dickhead greeting rituals (which we can’t repeat here or everyone would be on to them trying to impersonate them and creating fodder for those Jackass video clips). Yet SATP knows them and suspects that the Mad Monk does too.
SATPs dream, like that of Abbott, is that one day the snotty left-leaning intelligentsia will step aside and let the dickheads take their turn at governing the country.
The trouble is that they had a turn between 1996 and 2007, so that would hardly be fair.
No Zoot, SATP isn’t calling himself a dickhead. He just claims to have an intimate knowledge of the usages and culture of the dickhead community.
Unlike us, he doesn’t have any bias against dickheads and accepts them as part of the rich tapestry in his life at the pub, frequently posing as one for a lark when in company.
Doubtless they have secret dickhead greeting rituals (which we can’t repeat here or everyone would be on to them trying to impersonate them and creating fodder for those Jackass video clips). Yet SATP knows them and suspects that the Mad Monk does too.
SATPs dream, like that of Abbott, is that one day the snotty left-leaning intelligentsia will step aside and let the dickheads take their turn at governing the country.
The trouble is that they had a turn between 1996 and 2007, so that would hardly be fair.
Helen @48, roflmao.
The bottom line is, would you want Tony Foot-in-Mouth Abbott in the top job anywhere anytime, anyhow, negotiating anything on your behalf?
Helen @48, roflmao.
The bottom line is, would you want Tony Foot-in-Mouth Abbott in the top job anywhere anytime, anyhow, negotiating anything on your behalf?
Fran, get your hand off it! Left leaning intelligentsia mostly are unable to govern their own lives, never mind anybody else’s. They haven’t any ability.
Zoot, perhaps the lingua franca of the common man is unknown up in your ivory tower?
Have another listen to Tony Abbott’s budget reply speech. It is not a budget reply speech, it is an election speech, distilled into terms the common man will understand.
“Dickhead friendly” is a most apt term used by another (not I – I am only borrowing it) meaning “in language the ocker will understand”.
Do not underestimate the power of appealing to the lowest common denominator. A good example is the 1993 ALP federal election campaign, (possibly the most “dickhead-friendly” election manifesto of all time).
It works. (this is not to suggest Abbott is going to win an election, or put forward a simplistic election manifesto – but whatever else he is, he speaks in simple terms – truthfulness notwithstanding)
Fran, get your hand off it! Left leaning intelligentsia mostly are unable to govern their own lives, never mind anybody else’s. They haven’t any ability.
Zoot, perhaps the lingua franca of the common man is unknown up in your ivory tower?
Have another listen to Tony Abbott’s budget reply speech. It is not a budget reply speech, it is an election speech, distilled into terms the common man will understand.
“Dickhead friendly” is a most apt term used by another (not I – I am only borrowing it) meaning “in language the ocker will understand”.
Do not underestimate the power of appealing to the lowest common denominator. A good example is the 1993 ALP federal election campaign, (possibly the most “dickhead-friendly” election manifesto of all time).
It works. (this is not to suggest Abbott is going to win an election, or put forward a simplistic election manifesto – but whatever else he is, he speaks in simple terms – truthfulness notwithstanding)
SATP @49,
“dickhead-friendly”!! Got it in one dude.
Abbott is coming at them from their own level…he’s very experienced at it.
SATP @49,
“dickhead-friendly”!! Got it in one dude.
Abbott is coming at them from their own level…he’s very experienced at it.
SATP said:
And yet for most of the Howard years the assembled dickheads of the country insisted that the country was run by that same left-leaning intelligentsia and that only Howard could dislodge them.
For people with no ability who can’t run their own lives, that’s a pretty impressive recommendation, even if it merely comes from the dickhead community and their appointed sage, the grand poobah of dickheads, Howard himself.
SATP said:
And yet for most of the Howard years the assembled dickheads of the country insisted that the country was run by that same left-leaning intelligentsia and that only Howard could dislodge them.
For people with no ability who can’t run their own lives, that’s a pretty impressive recommendation, even if it merely comes from the dickhead community and their appointed sage, the grand poobah of dickheads, Howard himself.
Fascists vote Liberal!
Fascists vote Liberal!
Sadly, I think it’s a bit true, Abbott does have a certain touch of the dickhead (communication ability) about him.
Even worse, Barnaby Joyce has it in spades.
Sadly, I think it’s a bit true, Abbott does have a certain touch of the dickhead (communication ability) about him.
Even worse, Barnaby Joyce has it in spades.
And trowels and aprons? And goats, do they have goats?
And trowels and aprons? And goats, do they have goats?
They probably roll their trousers above the knees too, Pollyanna.
They probably roll their trousers above the knees too, Pollyanna.
With the ALP standing for nothing and full of politicians who would do anything for power and abandon any principle, I guess all they can do is attack their opponents. After all, they can hardly say, Vote for us because we have done….. They have done nothing, achieved nothing and overturned (yet again) every principle they had. No wonder I resigned from this disgusting party of opportunists.
With the ALP standing for nothing and full of politicians who would do anything for power and abandon any principle, I guess all they can do is attack their opponents. After all, they can hardly say, Vote for us because we have done….. They have done nothing, achieved nothing and overturned (yet again) every principle they had. No wonder I resigned from this disgusting party of opportunists.
@55:
SATP – you’re an elitist!
@55:
SATP – you’re an elitist!
Cheryl at 27 Rasputin – you ain’t seen nuttin yet! They tried killing him a dozen ways and he just wouldn’t die! And if the Mad Monk gets in we’ll never be rid of him. You’re spot on him though and with some recent 48 hours of headlines stories in a few neat verses – and they scan too.
Cheryl at 27 Rasputin – you ain’t seen nuttin yet! They tried killing him a dozen ways and he just wouldn’t die! And if the Mad Monk gets in we’ll never be rid of him. You’re spot on him though and with some recent 48 hours of headlines stories in a few neat verses – and they scan too.
Zoot, you grow wiser. A few comments further up you had me as a dickhead!
Zoot, you grow wiser. A few comments further up you had me as a dickhead!
No, no SATP. I was just requesting clarification.
No, no SATP. I was just requesting clarification.
Spana @62 I’m keep picking up that you feel a little letdown and upset with Labor.
Spana @62 I’m keep picking up that you feel a little letdown and upset with Labor.
Far Canal! Have just read through the thread, but by the time I got to the bottom I’d quite forgotten what the topic was … had to return to the top to refresh my memory.
So, Tony Abbott has admitted on radio that he doesn’t tell the truth unless someone has written it down for him … Gosh!
But of course he’s a liar … he went to Catholic School … I can say this because I was beaten up by the nuns! Catholic School kids had to learn to be good liars otherwise we had nothing to confess to the fool in the dress in the confessional each week.
Far Canal! Have just read through the thread, but by the time I got to the bottom I’d quite forgotten what the topic was … had to return to the top to refresh my memory.
So, Tony Abbott has admitted on radio that he doesn’t tell the truth unless someone has written it down for him … Gosh!
But of course he’s a liar … he went to Catholic School … I can say this because I was beaten up by the nuns! Catholic School kids had to learn to be good liars otherwise we had nothing to confess to the fool in the dress in the confessional each week.
Zoot, if I was you I wouldn’t be claiming to require clarification of such a straightforward statement.
“Elitist” is just as far off the mark. Thought indisputably the term applies to you if you really didn’t understand (as opposed to faking subjective ignorance) the reference to “dickhead-friendly”.
Zoot, if I was you I wouldn’t be claiming to require clarification of such a straightforward statement.
“Elitist” is just as far off the mark. Thought indisputably the term applies to you if you really didn’t understand (as opposed to faking subjective ignorance) the reference to “dickhead-friendly”.
Well, SATP, out here in the real world we don’t use labels like “dickhead” to describe the people we live amongst.
We leave that to the elites who like to look down on us by calling us ockers and referring to the lowest common denominator.
How’s life in your ivory tower?
Well, SATP, out here in the real world we don’t use labels like “dickhead” to describe the people we live amongst.
We leave that to the elites who like to look down on us by calling us ockers and referring to the lowest common denominator.
How’s life in your ivory tower?
GP 64, thank you for the recognition. I was very tempted to write the “ad libs” as ab lids. I was not sure the barb would hit home.
GP 64, thank you for the recognition. I was very tempted to write the “ad libs” as ab lids. I was not sure the barb would hit home.
Polyanna, 60#, it is likely they do have specific purpose-prepared goats.
Remember the old Bedouin saying,
“for children, a woman;
for pleasure, a boy.
for Paradise; a goat.”
What order of utility and function occurs at these ceremonies one may only guess. But don’t forget, many of these people come from private school backgrounds.
Polyanna, 60#, it is likely they do have specific purpose-prepared goats.
Remember the old Bedouin saying,
“for children, a woman;
for pleasure, a boy.
for Paradise; a goat.”
What order of utility and function occurs at these ceremonies one may only guess. But don’t forget, many of these people come from private school backgrounds.