Nearly missed posting this after my inaugural offering got overtaken by events last week!
Each week I’m going to share something that I find appealing from the Vast Wilds of the InterWebs. Then in comments, you get to do the same!
This week a trip down memory lane with A Little Bit of Fry and Laurie from BBC Worldwide on YouTube (a fraffly rich and creamy aid to procrastination):
As I wandered from link to link I found the full version of that lion reunion video that went viral a year or two ago at the bornfreefoundation Youtube Channel – where two men who had had a lion cub as a pet in London from 1969-71 went to Africa in 1972 to see how he was going after he’d been taken back to the wilds of Kenya. This longer version has the original soundtrack with narration from Virginia McKenna. The sentiments are somewhat treacly compared to modern wildlife docos.
As I wandered from link to link I found the full version of that lion reunion video that went viral a year or two ago at the bornfreefoundation Youtube Channel – where two men who had had a lion cub as a pet in London from 1969-71 went to Africa in 1972 to see how he was going after he’d been taken back to the wilds of Kenya. This longer version has the original soundtrack with narration from Virginia McKenna. The sentiments are somewhat treacly compared to modern wildlife docos.
this film is so moving. it shows how all animals have the same feelings which we human animals experience.
it was hard for me to watch those frustrated lions in the small cage.
this is why it is so important to preserve the natural habitat of all creatures, and to leave them in peace.
this film is so moving. it shows how all animals have the same feelings which we human animals experience.
it was hard for me to watch those frustrated lions in the small cage.
this is why it is so important to preserve the natural habitat of all creatures, and to leave them in peace.
OK, back to the whimsy brief:
via For Battle!
OK, back to the whimsy brief:
via For Battle!
” fraffly?”?
” fraffly?”?
I wake up every morning hoping for good news to emereg from the speakers of my clock radio alarm at 6AM. Mostly I am disappointed, but hearing that the candidacy of former PM Howard had been flatly rejected by the ICC at Singapore without even a vote being taken does count as good news. The use of the word “humiliating” simply is the cream on the cake.
I really don’t care what the reason was, but pretty much anything non-criminal and non-life-shortening (I don’t wish that on even him) that causes us to hear less from him in the future is much to be recommended. He was, sans doute the least cerebral, least effective PM we have had since at least WW2 and he certainly yields nothing to menzies in being egregious.
He is complaining that nobody gave him a reason, but frankly — why should they? Like me, he has neither played, nor coached nor administered nor been involved in the marketing of cricket at district level. Unlike him, I’d be very confident of landing 6 legal deliveries out of six on a pitch that would hit the stumps unless interrupted by a striker’s blade. I haven’t received advice as to why I wasn’t proposed, but I assume it has something to do with being underqualified. Liking cricket isn’t enough it seems. Apparently this self-aggrandizing mediocrity thought that was enough. Mugged by reality again. Nice.
On a separate note, across the ditch, the NZ conservatives have introduced their own ETS. It shares many of the serious flaws associated with Rudd’s failed CPRS so we will have a chance to see what difference it makes in practice to NZ’s escalating GHG emissions.
I wake up every morning hoping for good news to emereg from the speakers of my clock radio alarm at 6AM. Mostly I am disappointed, but hearing that the candidacy of former PM Howard had been flatly rejected by the ICC at Singapore without even a vote being taken does count as good news. The use of the word “humiliating” simply is the cream on the cake.
I really don’t care what the reason was, but pretty much anything non-criminal and non-life-shortening (I don’t wish that on even him) that causes us to hear less from him in the future is much to be recommended. He was, sans doute the least cerebral, least effective PM we have had since at least WW2 and he certainly yields nothing to menzies in being egregious.
He is complaining that nobody gave him a reason, but frankly — why should they? Like me, he has neither played, nor coached nor administered nor been involved in the marketing of cricket at district level. Unlike him, I’d be very confident of landing 6 legal deliveries out of six on a pitch that would hit the stumps unless interrupted by a striker’s blade. I haven’t received advice as to why I wasn’t proposed, but I assume it has something to do with being underqualified. Liking cricket isn’t enough it seems. Apparently this self-aggrandizing mediocrity thought that was enough. Mugged by reality again. Nice.
On a separate note, across the ditch, the NZ conservatives have introduced their own ETS. It shares many of the serious flaws associated with Rudd’s failed CPRS so we will have a chance to see what difference it makes in practice to NZ’s escalating GHG emissions.
“fraffly wunful” is how Sloane Street Rangers say “frightfully wonderful” when they are overcome with an attack of fulsomeness.
“fraffly wunful” is how Sloane Street Rangers say “frightfully wonderful” when they are overcome with an attack of fulsomeness.
Thanks Tig Tog.
It came to me just making a cup of tea, thinking of “Trude” and the other Liberal straw-head c haracter, that Turner and Riley occasionally carve up on Kath and Kim.
Thanks Tig Tog.
It came to me just making a cup of tea, thinking of “Trude” and the other Liberal straw-head c haracter, that Turner and Riley occasionally carve up on Kath and Kim.
ps, Nice to see Fran Barlow efficiently at work as to John Howard and cricket; a “lone hand” if ever there was one…
ps, Nice to see Fran Barlow efficiently at work as to John Howard and cricket; a “lone hand” if ever there was one…
Yes Fran, but don’t you know it was all the fault of those ‘non-white nations’. Hearing his whining tones and his refusal to accept defeat with even an ounce of grace or dignity, contrasted sharply with our most recent ex-PM. What a tool!
Yes Fran, but don’t you know it was all the fault of those ‘non-white nations’. Hearing his whining tones and his refusal to accept defeat with even an ounce of grace or dignity, contrasted sharply with our most recent ex-PM. What a tool!
Great video BTW – thanks tigtog.
Great video BTW – thanks tigtog.
@5
A matter of such great import that it spanned 10 minutes and two stories on today’s AM. Interesting that Rudd’s interest in a seat on the UN security council was treated with contempt by most in the MSN yet the rejection of our candidate for the Presidency of the ICC is seen as a casus belli. Pathetic. The Fry and Laurie is fantastic, there’s a similar one about a man trying to buy hardware.
@5
A matter of such great import that it spanned 10 minutes and two stories on today’s AM. Interesting that Rudd’s interest in a seat on the UN security council was treated with contempt by most in the MSN yet the rejection of our candidate for the Presidency of the ICC is seen as a casus belli. Pathetic. The Fry and Laurie is fantastic, there’s a similar one about a man trying to buy hardware.
Exactly patrickb. Our media’s love affair with John Winston Howard continues.
Exactly patrickb. Our media’s love affair with John Winston Howard continues.
Oh, I don’t know about that FB.
I’d like to imagine Howard, that miniaturised Cricket Panjamdrum, squirming as he acquainted himself with the fact that about 95% of world cricket money emanates from the bottomless coffers of wallahs who wear club blazers and smell of cardamom.
Oh, I don’t know about that FB.
I’d like to imagine Howard, that miniaturised Cricket Panjamdrum, squirming as he acquainted himself with the fact that about 95% of world cricket money emanates from the bottomless coffers of wallahs who wear club blazers and smell of cardamom.
Not enough. I’d like the ICC to tell him to go away and never to darken their door again. Then they could pass a resolution providing that his name never again be raised in public or private conversation, on pain of being forced to sit and watch video of him sending down that delivery in Pakistan on a permanent loop for not less than the length of a standard test match.
Not enough. I’d like the ICC to tell him to go away and never to darken their door again. Then they could pass a resolution providing that his name never again be raised in public or private conversation, on pain of being forced to sit and watch video of him sending down that delivery in Pakistan on a permanent loop for not less than the length of a standard test match.
From realclimate.org
Now I’m not one for being pedantic (OK, that was disingenuous. I am one for being pedantic) and I could probably object to this text, but I found it amusing all the same.
From realclimate.org
Now I’m not one for being pedantic (OK, that was disingenuous. I am one for being pedantic) and I could probably object to this text, but I found it amusing all the same.
Heartless, Fran, totally heartless!
Former PM Howard was just exercising his god-given right to blow his own vuvuzela…
Heartless, Fran, totally heartless!
Former PM Howard was just exercising his god-given right to blow his own vuvuzela…
You’re MUCH too kind Fran. I guess they think it’s a Hegelian triad or something.
Whereas it’s the most glaring bit of question-begging I’ve heard in a long while.
Fixed for economy.
And what a shame (leaving aside the idiocy of a scientific prayer) that the first word is “grant”.
Own goal.
You’re MUCH too kind Fran. I guess they think it’s a Hegelian triad or something.
Whereas it’s the most glaring bit of question-begging I’ve heard in a long while.
Fixed for economy.
And what a shame (leaving aside the idiocy of a scientific prayer) that the first word is “grant”.
Own goal.
Fran, I do not know how tall you are, or how much you weigh, but regarding your comments about John Howards attempt to clean up the corruption in world cricket, I can only assume you a very small woman…. Would you be happy if Mugabe took on the role?
Fran, I do not know how tall you are, or how much you weigh, but regarding your comments about John Howards attempt to clean up the corruption in world cricket, I can only assume you a very small woman…. Would you be happy if Mugabe took on the role?
Colmac
It’s hard to imagine that Howard could have had a plan to “clean up corruption in world cricket” given that Howard was known, inter alia as the father of rural political patronage. We are talking about the man who oversaw bribing Saddam Hussein with AWB funds so as to curry favour with cockies.
The prospect of Mugabe being chosen to run world cricket is … zero, so I’m treating that as intellectual flatus.
Colmac
It’s hard to imagine that Howard could have had a plan to “clean up corruption in world cricket” given that Howard was known, inter alia as the father of rural political patronage. We are talking about the man who oversaw bribing Saddam Hussein with AWB funds so as to curry favour with cockies.
The prospect of Mugabe being chosen to run world cricket is … zero, so I’m treating that as intellectual flatus.
Colmac @19: “John Howards attempt to clean up the corruption…”
You mean like in the AWB affair???
Colmac @19: “John Howards attempt to clean up the corruption…”
You mean like in the AWB affair???
Nice one Eric.
Led me to this.
Nice one Eric.
Led me to this.
Nice to see the SMH editor putting the boot into Ratty today.
Nice to see the SMH editor putting the boot into Ratty today.
cheers FDB, still always get chills with that song.
cheers FDB, still always get chills with that song.
Colmac @19, and children overboard and WMB?
tigtog, many thanks for the fraffly wunful youtube clip. I also glue myself to the ABC at 12.30 on Thursdays to watch them in the equally fraffly wunful Jeeves and Wooster.
Fran, it gladdens the cockles of my heart that the Rodent was dumped upon from a great height by the ICC. I think they should also threaten to shoot him at dawn several times if he ever contemplates poking his snout in their doorway again.
Colmac @19, and children overboard and WMB?
tigtog, many thanks for the fraffly wunful youtube clip. I also glue myself to the ABC at 12.30 on Thursdays to watch them in the equally fraffly wunful Jeeves and Wooster.
Fran, it gladdens the cockles of my heart that the Rodent was dumped upon from a great height by the ICC. I think they should also threaten to shoot him at dawn several times if he ever contemplates poking his snout in their doorway again.
Both Fry & Laurie & thwarting of Howard’s cricketing dream have cheered me up. I still rememember Howard saying that to be captain of the Australian cricket team was close to ‘the pinnacle of human achievement’… sheesh.
Both Fry & Laurie & thwarting of Howard’s cricketing dream have cheered me up. I still rememember Howard saying that to be captain of the Australian cricket team was close to ‘the pinnacle of human achievement’… sheesh.
http://morgue.isprettyawesome.com/?p=1592
NZ actually has an emissions trading scheme at long last.
What’s that you say? No, no, Australia is still at the “first female prime minister” stage, it’ll be a few more years yet before they do anything about emissions.
http://morgue.isprettyawesome.com/?p=1592
NZ actually has an emissions trading scheme at long last.
What’s that you say? No, no, Australia is still at the “first female prime minister” stage, it’ll be a few more years yet before they do anything about emissions.
It’s a day late (Thursday), but maybe this video belongs in here.
It’s a day late (Thursday), but maybe this video belongs in here.
I nearly forgot – Stephen Fry tweeted this link a few days ago – to commemorate the 70th anniversary a site has been created where some history buffs are liveblogging The Battle of Britain using newspapers and letters etc of the day as their source material. It’s quite fascinating.
http://www.1940chronicle.com/
I nearly forgot – Stephen Fry tweeted this link a few days ago – to commemorate the 70th anniversary a site has been created where some history buffs are liveblogging The Battle of Britain using newspapers and letters etc of the day as their source material. It’s quite fascinating.
http://www.1940chronicle.com/
And here is some real whimsy:
Ken Clarke’s radical prison reforms enrage Tories
I never thought I’d see the day I’d say this, but this is a Tory policy that sounds supportable. Odd they didn’t mention it before the election. I wonder why?
And here is some real whimsy:
Ken Clarke’s radical prison reforms enrage Tories
I never thought I’d see the day I’d say this, but this is a Tory policy that sounds supportable. Odd they didn’t mention it before the election. I wonder why?
I am avidly following the World Cup hoping that the final will be a Germany v Netherlands derby
To show what an enthralling game that would be I offer this from Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCiuLVQfQ-4
I am avidly following the World Cup hoping that the final will be a Germany v Netherlands derby
To show what an enthralling game that would be I offer this from Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCiuLVQfQ-4
Katz
If you are informed about what is really going down at the ICC, please correct my theory if it is wrong.
This is my theory.
Dear Those of us here who are white, which I bet is just about all.
There is one thing we all share. We cannot imagine in our wildest dreams what it must be like to be thought of as racially lesser; less biologically human. I have often pushed my imagination deluding myself it can’t be that inaccessible to my imagination. Until I asked a black lover once, whether it was possible. The answer/ I really should save myself the anguish and never think of it again, because there was no way I could ever have that emotional button crushed and the never-forgotten crush that follows.
Because I think most of us probably already know this at some level, do you think we might over-interpret how much that pain and degradataion dominates the emotions of non-white people? As rude, audacious, insensitive, and ‘just not done’ as it is, I have asked about 40 non-white people since my former African-American flame told me to get over it 10 years ago.
You know what? If we’re not running their countries, they think about it about 10% as much as we do; and most of that is not pain, but trying to see if they can ever work out not only why we do it (or increasingly did it, but why we are so obsessed with it.
back to Katz, Howard, and the ICC
Did they say no to Howard as revenge, or hurt, or simply because they’ve been merrily involved in their own politicking for quite a while now. Howard was one of many. Neither hated or victim of revenge. Just not sufficiently clubabble for the free and happy brown people who have ruled themselves for quite a few generations now.
Birds of a feather and all that.
Maybe we are making fool’s of ourselves by beating ourselves up.
Or maybe Katz will correct me, and say the beating hasn’t even begun.
I will finish by acknowledging one group, which will not get down to 10% as long as the USA exists. And that is African-Americans. Quite right, too.
Katz
If you are informed about what is really going down at the ICC, please correct my theory if it is wrong.
This is my theory.
Dear Those of us here who are white, which I bet is just about all.
There is one thing we all share. We cannot imagine in our wildest dreams what it must be like to be thought of as racially lesser; less biologically human. I have often pushed my imagination deluding myself it can’t be that inaccessible to my imagination. Until I asked a black lover once, whether it was possible. The answer/ I really should save myself the anguish and never think of it again, because there was no way I could ever have that emotional button crushed and the never-forgotten crush that follows.
Because I think most of us probably already know this at some level, do you think we might over-interpret how much that pain and degradataion dominates the emotions of non-white people? As rude, audacious, insensitive, and ‘just not done’ as it is, I have asked about 40 non-white people since my former African-American flame told me to get over it 10 years ago.
You know what? If we’re not running their countries, they think about it about 10% as much as we do; and most of that is not pain, but trying to see if they can ever work out not only why we do it (or increasingly did it, but why we are so obsessed with it.
back to Katz, Howard, and the ICC
Did they say no to Howard as revenge, or hurt, or simply because they’ve been merrily involved in their own politicking for quite a while now. Howard was one of many. Neither hated or victim of revenge. Just not sufficiently clubabble for the free and happy brown people who have ruled themselves for quite a few generations now.
Birds of a feather and all that.
Maybe we are making fool’s of ourselves by beating ourselves up.
Or maybe Katz will correct me, and say the beating hasn’t even begun.
I will finish by acknowledging one group, which will not get down to 10% as long as the USA exists. And that is African-Americans. Quite right, too.
It’s hard to follow what you are on about here ossie.
The candidate, based on the regional rotation system, must come from Australia-NZ. So it is almost certainly going to be some white male — there had been some NZ business person — Sir Jack someone or other — who had been in the running before Howard got the nod.
So he’s probably the front runner now, whoever he is.
It’s hard to follow what you are on about here ossie.
The candidate, based on the regional rotation system, must come from Australia-NZ. So it is almost certainly going to be some white male — there had been some NZ business person — Sir Jack someone or other — who had been in the running before Howard got the nod.
So he’s probably the front runner now, whoever he is.
Speak for yourself, Fran @ 5. I keep hoping for news that the little prick has collapsed into alcoholism and despair. (Yeah, I know, not very whimsical, but Howard brings out my worse side.)
Speak for yourself, Fran @ 5. I keep hoping for news that the little prick has collapsed into alcoholism and despair. (Yeah, I know, not very whimsical, but Howard brings out my worse side.)
Fran
Oh blast me and my cricket naivety!. Is there ANY way of making my post relevant?
Fran
Oh blast me and my cricket naivety!. Is there ANY way of making my post relevant?
Seems not.
Seems not.
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24 Types of Libertarian
Dedicated to our friends at Catallaxy:
24 Types of Libertarian
ossie @ #32: “we cannot imagine in our wildest dreams…”
Actually, the boring earth-bound hum-drum thing is that you’re just profoundly, ignorantly, historically wrong.
Invent a time machine, ossie. Go back and ask a Christian Spaniard ca. 900 AD what they felt in Cordoba; ask a Russian or Ukrainian under the Mongols; ask a Slavic girl in a Turkish or North African slave market.
IOW, you’re an idiot. But that, of course, is the eternal privilege of nitwit leftists.
Driver!
Oh, forget this joke already, I’m too damn tired.
ossie @ #32: “we cannot imagine in our wildest dreams…”
Actually, the boring earth-bound hum-drum thing is that you’re just profoundly, ignorantly, historically wrong.
Invent a time machine, ossie. Go back and ask a Christian Spaniard ca. 900 AD what they felt in Cordoba; ask a Russian or Ukrainian under the Mongols; ask a Slavic girl in a Turkish or North African slave market.
IOW, you’re an idiot. But that, of course, is the eternal privilege of nitwit leftists.
Driver!
Oh, forget this joke already, I’m too damn tired.
Japerz ….
Ossie has made it clear that he is no kind of leftist
Japerz ….
Ossie has made it clear that he is no kind of leftist
Apparently the truth is out. Indian TV is saying J. Howard, former Australian PM was rejected for the ICC because he’s a closet racist. + quite a few other uncomplementary things.
Apparently the truth is out. Indian TV is saying J. Howard, former Australian PM was rejected for the ICC because he’s a closet racist. + quite a few other uncomplementary things.
I just discovered this blog, which is new to me. The writer is only 24 and it’s a lot of fun.
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/05/sneaky-hate-spiral.html
I just discovered this blog, which is new to me. The writer is only 24 and it’s a lot of fun.
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/05/sneaky-hate-spiral.html
j-p-z
If you’ve had a revitalising kip, could you explain why you think I am “Actually, the boring earth-bound hum-drum thing is that you’re just profoundly, ignorantly, historically wrong.”
I don’t have a time machine. May I borrow yours? But why do I even need it? As I said, I have already personally quizzed many on-whites about white racism, and whether I could ever truly understand how it felt to be born in to a world which considers and treats you as vermin.
I have concluded I could/cannot.
If you could teach me that in fact, I can learn this, please teach me.
j-p-z
If you’ve had a revitalising kip, could you explain why you think I am “Actually, the boring earth-bound hum-drum thing is that you’re just profoundly, ignorantly, historically wrong.”
I don’t have a time machine. May I borrow yours? But why do I even need it? As I said, I have already personally quizzed many on-whites about white racism, and whether I could ever truly understand how it felt to be born in to a world which considers and treats you as vermin.
I have concluded I could/cannot.
If you could teach me that in fact, I can learn this, please teach me.
Fran
Ossie has made it clear that he is no kind of leftist.
I have?
Fran
Ossie has made it clear that he is no kind of leftist.
I have?
No stoushing on the whimsy thread, please.
No stoushing on the whimsy thread, please.
But are we allowed whimsy on the stoushing threads?
But are we allowed whimsy on the stoushing threads?
Compulsory, Liam.
Compulsory, Liam.
Yes indeed Ossie… as your sneering remarks about left-of centre politics on the labor legitimacy thread make clear.
NTTAWWT … if you’re not a leftist.
Yes indeed Ossie… as your sneering remarks about left-of centre politics on the labor legitimacy thread make clear.
NTTAWWT … if you’re not a leftist.
FTR … while it is certainly possible to be some kind of leftist and be in the ALP, the reverse does not follow: being in the ALP does not entail being any kind of leftist.
FTR … while it is certainly possible to be some kind of leftist and be in the ALP, the reverse does not follow: being in the ALP does not entail being any kind of leftist.
Fran, you are continuing the stoush. STOP IT.
Fran, you are continuing the stoush. STOP IT.
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Can I get some action from the <img> section?
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A great Fry and Laurie clip thanks. Jane beat me to it, but I was going to plug their efforts in Jeeves and Wooster. Production pretty well reflects the 20s, and scripts are pretty true to Wodehouse. Weel worth a look or getting the DVDs.
And as the others have covered, the Howard/ICC rejection was a much-needed relief of good news after the trauma of Labor politics. There was even a nice bit of Karma, with Haneef’s suing of the Government and Andrews at pretty much the same time.
A great Fry and Laurie clip thanks. Jane beat me to it, but I was going to plug their efforts in Jeeves and Wooster. Production pretty well reflects the 20s, and scripts are pretty true to Wodehouse. Weel worth a look or getting the DVDs.
And as the others have covered, the Howard/ICC rejection was a much-needed relief of good news after the trauma of Labor politics. There was even a nice bit of Karma, with Haneef’s suing of the Government and Andrews at pretty much the same time.
I’ve been very much enjoying Jeeves and Wooster on recent Thursday lunchtimes on our ABC, as Jane mentioned. My kids were astonished though, being familiar with Hugh Laurie mainly from House, and then even more so when I reminded them that he was a stalwart in Blackadder.
I can’t get enough of the Heroic Stance scene from Blackadder the Third: Sense and Senility (which follows the first arrival of the Actors and the revelation of their superstition about MacBeth)
[transcript of full episode]
I’ve been very much enjoying Jeeves and Wooster on recent Thursday lunchtimes on our ABC, as Jane mentioned. My kids were astonished though, being familiar with Hugh Laurie mainly from House, and then even more so when I reminded them that he was a stalwart in Blackadder.
I can’t get enough of the Heroic Stance scene from Blackadder the Third: Sense and Senility (which follows the first arrival of the Actors and the revelation of their superstition about MacBeth)
[transcript of full episode]
While I am not interested in any stoushing, per se, I’m keen to understand where Fran is coming from, if she has time to explain on a more appropriate thread.
While I am not interested in any stoushing, per se, I’m keen to understand where Fran is coming from, if she has time to explain on a more appropriate thread.
As Fran referred to remarks of yours on the labor legitimacy thread, perhaps that would be the most appropriate? I suggest you post a comment there asking for Fran’s feedback.
As Fran referred to remarks of yours on the labor legitimacy thread, perhaps that would be the most appropriate? I suggest you post a comment there asking for Fran’s feedback.
Fran
OK, I now get the regional rotational ICC president rule. But my post, and its final question stands unamended. Folks are arguing Howard was dumped because the majority of the 10 votes were getting back at Howard for being a white racist. In which case, the majority will presumably select somebody who they do not think is a horrible racist. And that person could be white.
My point is, does anybody have any evidence to support this reflexive conclusion, rather than say, Howard was mere collateral damage of far greater political/diplomatic/ego intrigues and dynamics among those Full members whose societies and elites have political and cultural interests and conflicts, of which we are at most irrelevant? In other words, Howard’s presidency did not suit grander political machinations among the other 7/8 voters.
Are we once again assuming that the old racist white empire still dominates the consciousness of the brown people even in 2010 to an extent denied by the brown people themselves?
Fran
OK, I now get the regional rotational ICC president rule. But my post, and its final question stands unamended. Folks are arguing Howard was dumped because the majority of the 10 votes were getting back at Howard for being a white racist. In which case, the majority will presumably select somebody who they do not think is a horrible racist. And that person could be white.
My point is, does anybody have any evidence to support this reflexive conclusion, rather than say, Howard was mere collateral damage of far greater political/diplomatic/ego intrigues and dynamics among those Full members whose societies and elites have political and cultural interests and conflicts, of which we are at most irrelevant? In other words, Howard’s presidency did not suit grander political machinations among the other 7/8 voters.
Are we once again assuming that the old racist white empire still dominates the consciousness of the brown people even in 2010 to an extent denied by the brown people themselves?
ossie, I really don’t get what you are trying to argue based on your very small sample of People of Colour whom you have asked about this. There are many Bloggers of Colour out there who are more than willing to point out daily incidents which derive from the legacy of colonialist racism around the world, and to argue that the racist white empire still influences prejudice and discrimination against them in a very visceral way – do they count at all against your very small sample?
Did you ever consider that some People of Colour, when asked clueless questions by a Person of Whiteness whom they otherwise quite like and who they know is meaning to be kind, might just prefer to brush the whole matter off politely rather than get into a discussion which could get turned into an ugly debate? I assure you that this is often a dynamic women use with clueless but otherwise kindly men with respect to sexism.
Back to JWH – my own impression of him is that he is a singularly charmless individual. Given that his political history has been more than a little racially insensitive, and that the other candidate does not have that political baggage and might well just be a heckuva lot more fun to have around at an ICC bunfight, I can see why the other candidate would get the nod.
ossie, I really don’t get what you are trying to argue based on your very small sample of People of Colour whom you have asked about this. There are many Bloggers of Colour out there who are more than willing to point out daily incidents which derive from the legacy of colonialist racism around the world, and to argue that the racist white empire still influences prejudice and discrimination against them in a very visceral way – do they count at all against your very small sample?
Did you ever consider that some People of Colour, when asked clueless questions by a Person of Whiteness whom they otherwise quite like and who they know is meaning to be kind, might just prefer to brush the whole matter off politely rather than get into a discussion which could get turned into an ugly debate? I assure you that this is often a dynamic women use with clueless but otherwise kindly men with respect to sexism.
Back to JWH – my own impression of him is that he is a singularly charmless individual. Given that his political history has been more than a little racially insensitive, and that the other candidate does not have that political baggage and might well just be a heckuva lot more fun to have around at an ICC bunfight, I can see why the other candidate would get the nod.
Yes, you are right. The topic is too obtuse for a Friday night, and not at all whimsical. Let’s just drop it.
Yes, you are right. The topic is too obtuse for a Friday night, and not at all whimsical. Let’s just drop it.
But one clarification. My point was not to argue. I hoped I made it clear that I did not have anything like an answer.That is why I am researching.
By the way, your response provides a valuable data point. Thank you.
On another whimsy thread someday, perhaps we can exchange our mutual reflections on the dynamics of biracial love affairs, based on our relationships with people of different races. My longest-term relationship was with an African American, ended when we broke off our engagement. So, I look forward to you giving me some pointers,from your vaster experiences. Hopefully, you can help me overcome the role played by this “cluelessness” of mine about “people of colour” you know so much about in that relationship.
And thank for you for the observation about how “white” my questions” are.
Are you being serious here, tigtog? Do you have anything to justify all those presumptions? I doubt it. I will refrain from the justified response.
But one clarification. My point was not to argue. I hoped I made it clear that I did not have anything like an answer.That is why I am researching.
By the way, your response provides a valuable data point. Thank you.
On another whimsy thread someday, perhaps we can exchange our mutual reflections on the dynamics of biracial love affairs, based on our relationships with people of different races. My longest-term relationship was with an African American, ended when we broke off our engagement. So, I look forward to you giving me some pointers,from your vaster experiences. Hopefully, you can help me overcome the role played by this “cluelessness” of mine about “people of colour” you know so much about in that relationship.
And thank for you for the observation about how “white” my questions” are.
Are you being serious here, tigtog? Do you have anything to justify all those presumptions? I doubt it. I will refrain from the justified response.
Ossie, I’m going to reply to you over on my own blog, but not tonight. Look for it tomorrow. I don’t want to extend this any further in this thread.
Ossie, I’m going to reply to you over on my own blog, but not tonight. Look for it tomorrow. I don’t want to extend this any further in this thread.
tigtog
Me neither. I’m a lover, not a fighter.
tigtog
Me neither. I’m a lover, not a fighter.
For ossie, tigtog and Fran:
For ossie, tigtog and Fran:
How the blazes does one embed a youtube video here?
How the blazes does one embed a youtube video here?
Terangeree, AFAIK you can’t embed without admin privileges – just copy and paste the URL. (Unless Tigtog’s shiny new template has some widget for embedding youtubes, in which case I’ll be “how embarassment” and please ignore me.)
This thread is getting a bit low on whimsy.
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/monologues/30jude.html
Terangeree, AFAIK you can’t embed without admin privileges – just copy and paste the URL. (Unless Tigtog’s shiny new template has some widget for embedding youtubes, in which case I’ll be “how embarassment” and please ignore me.)
This thread is getting a bit low on whimsy.
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/monologues/30jude.html
WHIMSY, MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?
(An oldie but a goodie).
WHIMSY, MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?
(An oldie but a goodie).
This is a steal from something I heard many years ago as a kid. Can’t remember the name of the EP.
MARK ANTONY: Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears.
[Continues with funeral oratory for some time]
VOICE FROM CROWD: Whaddya got in that bag?
MARK ANTONY : Brutus is an honourable …. [sighs] Ears, man. What do you think? Ears. … Now, as I was saying, Brutus is an honorable man …
This is a steal from something I heard many years ago as a kid. Can’t remember the name of the EP.
MARK ANTONY: Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears.
[Continues with funeral oratory for some time]
VOICE FROM CROWD: Whaddya got in that bag?
MARK ANTONY : Brutus is an honourable …. [sighs] Ears, man. What do you think? Ears. … Now, as I was saying, Brutus is an honorable man …
Helen is correct, terangeree. Sorry for any confusion.
Paul Burns, I remember that – was it in one of The Goons radio show episodes?
Helen is correct, terangeree. Sorry for any confusion.
Paul Burns, I remember that – was it in one of The Goons radio show episodes?
oh Helen – that link – *dies*
oh Helen – that link – *dies*
tigtog @ 68,
A bloke from the 50s named Stan Freborg, I think He did a couple of satires on Shakespeare that appealed to 10 year olds and a satire on Bizet’s Carmen That had the famous Giggle Song in it, but I’m not totally sure my memory is correct here. It was a very very long time ago.
tigtog @ 68,
A bloke from the 50s named Stan Freborg, I think He did a couple of satires on Shakespeare that appealed to 10 year olds and a satire on Bizet’s Carmen That had the famous Giggle Song in it, but I’m not totally sure my memory is correct here. It was a very very long time ago.
The Giggle Song was Spike Jones. Have searched for an audio or video of it but couldn;t find.
The Giggle Song was Spike Jones. Have searched for an audio or video of it but couldn;t find.
Fourth attempt. For the disputatious ones mentioned before:
Fourth attempt. For the disputatious ones mentioned before: