i think these GetUp people are a bunch of advertising wannabe wankers.
There is a wealth of anti-Abbott material already available on Youtube and they are not asking for contributions to fill the coffers of the decaying broadcast proprietors.
Except CmmC (or do only your friends call you that?), most over 30 yo punters don’t check out Youtube; certainly do not read LP; think GetUp is the name of a horse in Race 3 at Sandringham next Tuesday; and even possibly smirked at Tony being “clever” about Julia today. Wouldn’t hurt to make people just a little uncomfortable. Screened on Channel 9 or the like.
As a rule I don’t like answering pleas for donations or sending soliciting emails to trusted friends and family, but in this case made an exception. It’d be great just to see him squirm for a microsecond.
Well said Bernice, I think Tony thought he’d get a laugh out of his comments today, saying them 4 times so the journo’s around him heard him. Thinking like a foot ball player about who can make the best jokes at a womens expense, comes too easily for someone who wants to become a PM.
The fact that he has daughters aren’t proof. He can love his daughters, and still demean women with jokes or comments. His problem and Joe Hockey’s re Paris Hilton celebracy, is that the both practised these lines and didn’t think there was anything wrong with them.
It’s so frustrating when there is always an assumption that everyone has broadband!The rest of us will have to wait and see although it would not be difficult to show abbott in his true light given his propensity in the past to decree his religion over the rights of women.I would like to take exception to the comment made by Bernice, Get-Up has a large number of members who are over the age of 50 and I can assure Bernice that this old fossil found abbotts comments deeply offensive.And I have been a member of Get-Up since its inception and participated in all the campaigns held by the organisation.
If this shifts the conversation to what Tony Abbott actually stands for and has a track record of trying to implement then I want it screened – even if it only gets on air once, it might roll around the mainstream media.
@3 – Surely you underestimate the powerful possibilities for the imagination in the advertisement, Christopher. Not all of them are about annoying people shouting at you to buy dodgy Persian carpets and not all advertisers are coke-sniffing yuppie scum.
The Tony Abbott ad is well done, especially the quote about not hurrying to vaccinate his daughters against cervical cancer. Wonderful, a prime minister with a pre-Enlightenment worldview. In terms of election ads, it doesn’t quite matchthis (non professional) effort from the US 2006 midterms.
I don’t just mean Abbott.
I mean the way public organizations, such as but not only GetUp, have to beg for a few thousand dollars to bet their message out there.
Whereas the mining lobby can ante up a lazy $100 million with the flick of an accountant’s fingers.
Ahhhh, Fiona Reynolds.
Do you think they will think Alan Curran is for real?
They’d have had his guts for garters here, within nano seconds. Beleive me, Iknow…
It’s in complete contrast to the hysteria generated by tabloid teev. No bra-burners this lot; a sober conservative bunch we might not give credit enough for brains, mistaking the silence as they watch and listen, for stupidity.
But not a stupid remark from the lot.
they may turn out,ironically, to be gillard;s saviours, if the Tories keep over-egging the sexism black propaganda gladbag.
I hate to say it, but if these GetUp people want equality for women, human rights, and other such enlightened, western ideas for Australia in the long-run, they’re actually better off voting Liberal or even One Nation.
Perhaps Abbott’s not as politically correct as Gillard/Brown etc., but the key issue is immigration. Giving illiberal immigrants passports will give the “enlightened” Australians less power at the ballot box. The social opinions of Asian and Arab immigrants are mostly, though not always, more old-fashioned (when measured by Anglo-Australian standards) than the Australian average.
I hope Tony hasn’t seen this as the Libs will be pouring money into it. There’s no better way to alienate normal people (including most women) than to have the typical overprivileged upper middle class lefty women whining with confected outrage over trivial comments. I hate Tony Abbot but this ad made me sympathise with him. His comments such as Aborigines should get a job and take any job they can would be agreed with by nearly all Australians – white people have to, why not aborigines?
You want to demean women? how about having a hissy fit everytime a mild comment is made as though women are so precious and weak that they can’t handle the hurly burly of real life. There was no outrage at Cheryl Kernot’s recent abuse of men.
Do not support this ad – you are doing the Liberal’s work for them.
Sorry but I see this ad as pretty ineffective – quotes are old and not delivered with any punch and as Cortex said it could work against them as a lot of people would identify with some of the comments without understanding the context.
I really liked the Lily Allen youtube sendup that someone posted on this site – it definitely cuts through and makes you laugh. Yes it’s a bit offensive but I find Abbott deeply offensive. I like the song but have never listened to the lyrics as much as when I watched this – it’s almost like the song was written just for him.
The quotes from Smuggles are not from his uni days, they are all recent and the ad makes that plain. I donated. People need to be reminded who the real Smuggles is and what he stands for!
jane – the first two quotes are from 1979. Perhaps they are trying to show that he hasn’t changed, but maybe they would have been better off just using the more recent ones.
there were a couple of quotes in this ad from 1979, but tony abbott recently (as in 2010) has publicly stated that he stands by these comments and that his views haven’t changed. ’nuff said.
I agree with Fine (from the bottom of the comments). They should have stuck to ‘womens issues’ to make this advertisment more powerful, or if they felt the need to include Indigenous issues, the quotes should have been said by some Indigenous women.
But anything agaisnt Abbott is a good thing, if Liberal get voted in it will be a very sad day for Austrlaia. Not just for the fact that Abbott will be Prime Minister, but becuase it rreflects the backwards nature of a majority of Australia.
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i think these GetUp people are a bunch of advertising wannabe wankers.
There is a wealth of anti-Abbott material already available on Youtube and they are not asking for contributions to fill the coffers of the decaying broadcast proprietors.
Except CmmC (or do only your friends call you that?), most over 30 yo punters don’t check out Youtube; certainly do not read LP; think GetUp is the name of a horse in Race 3 at Sandringham next Tuesday; and even possibly smirked at Tony being “clever” about Julia today. Wouldn’t hurt to make people just a little uncomfortable. Screened on Channel 9 or the like.
Christopher Michael Matthew Cooper, but you can call me Christopher.
Advertisers are wankers of the highest order.
As a rule I don’t like answering pleas for donations or sending soliciting emails to trusted friends and family, but in this case made an exception. It’d be great just to see him squirm for a microsecond.
Well said Bernice, I think Tony thought he’d get a laugh out of his comments today, saying them 4 times so the journo’s around him heard him. Thinking like a foot ball player about who can make the best jokes at a womens expense, comes too easily for someone who wants to become a PM.
The fact that he has daughters aren’t proof. He can love his daughters, and still demean women with jokes or comments. His problem and Joe Hockey’s re Paris Hilton celebracy, is that the both practised these lines and didn’t think there was anything wrong with them.
It’s so frustrating when there is always an assumption that everyone has broadband!The rest of us will have to wait and see although it would not be difficult to show abbott in his true light given his propensity in the past to decree his religion over the rights of women.I would like to take exception to the comment made by Bernice, Get-Up has a large number of members who are over the age of 50 and I can assure Bernice that this old fossil found abbotts comments deeply offensive.And I have been a member of Get-Up since its inception and participated in all the campaigns held by the organisation.
If this shifts the conversation to what Tony Abbott actually stands for and has a track record of trying to implement then I want it screened – even if it only gets on air once, it might roll around the mainstream media.
Did they turn you down for a job Christopher?
I happily donated money to GetUp to run counte-fear ads from the coal lobby.
What annoys me about them is they don’t do enough follow-up about the campaign to help justify the donation.
@3 – Surely you underestimate the powerful possibilities for the imagination in the advertisement, Christopher. Not all of them are about annoying people shouting at you to buy dodgy Persian carpets and not all advertisers are coke-sniffing yuppie scum.
I think we must be careful not to shoot the GetUp messengers and listen closely to the message.
I find this advert sobering in the extreme.
Did GetUp ever end up running the Julia Gillard climate change ad?
Its a bit surprising the Labor aren’t running an Abbott add like GetUp have made. Or maybe they’ll just be donating some money
i put 50 bux on it.
It made 1000 dollars more in the last five minutes…
The Tony Abbott ad is well done, especially the quote about not hurrying to vaccinate his daughters against cervical cancer. Wonderful, a prime minister with a pre-Enlightenment worldview. In terms of election ads, it doesn’t quite matchthis (non professional) effort from the US 2006 midterms.
Not that I want to turn this into one upperchildship (or … do I?) – but I put $100 an hour ago.
Do not want this medieval misogynist fanatic in “charge” of this country.
Highlights a little problem doesn’t it?
I don’t just mean Abbott.
I mean the way public organizations, such as but not only GetUp, have to beg for a few thousand dollars to bet their message out there.
Whereas the mining lobby can ante up a lazy $100 million with the flick of an accountant’s fingers.
Power.
It’s an expensive time of year for me so I haven’t donated – yet.
It hasn’t mentioned that when Tony Abbott was Health Minister he stopped the introduction of RU486.
Like Fiona I too
Oh, Billie, that was one of my chief reasons. Not sure about how to do cross posting – mods please help! http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/3088#comment-92160
GetUp claims 370,000 members. 10c each would raise enough for a prime time ad. Keep your hand in your pocket.
Ahhhh, Fiona Reynolds.
Do you think they will think Alan Curran is for real?
They’d have had his guts for garters here, within nano seconds. Beleive me, Iknow…
It’s earned just under 10 thousand dollars in just over an hour.
This is a very powerful ad.
Comments from 1979?????
Jeezus, has anyone not changed since then?
I wonder if for balance Get Up might like to roll out some of Julia’s political views from her Uni days.
It’s in complete contrast to the hysteria generated by tabloid teev. No bra-burners this lot; a sober conservative bunch we might not give credit enough for brains, mistaking the silence as they watch and listen, for stupidity.
But not a stupid remark from the lot.
they may turn out,ironically, to be gillard;s saviours, if the Tories keep over-egging the sexism black propaganda gladbag.
I hate to say it, but if these GetUp people want equality for women, human rights, and other such enlightened, western ideas for Australia in the long-run, they’re actually better off voting Liberal or even One Nation.
Perhaps Abbott’s not as politically correct as Gillard/Brown etc., but the key issue is immigration. Giving illiberal immigrants passports will give the “enlightened” Australians less power at the ballot box. The social opinions of Asian and Arab immigrants are mostly, though not always, more old-fashioned (when measured by Anglo-Australian standards) than the Australian average.
I hope Tony hasn’t seen this as the Libs will be pouring money into it. There’s no better way to alienate normal people (including most women) than to have the typical overprivileged upper middle class lefty women whining with confected outrage over trivial comments. I hate Tony Abbot but this ad made me sympathise with him. His comments such as Aborigines should get a job and take any job they can would be agreed with by nearly all Australians – white people have to, why not aborigines?
You want to demean women? how about having a hissy fit everytime a mild comment is made as though women are so precious and weak that they can’t handle the hurly burly of real life. There was no outrage at Cheryl Kernot’s recent abuse of men.
Do not support this ad – you are doing the Liberal’s work for them.
Sorry but I see this ad as pretty ineffective – quotes are old and not delivered with any punch and as Cortex said it could work against them as a lot of people would identify with some of the comments without understanding the context.
I really liked the Lily Allen youtube sendup that someone posted on this site – it definitely cuts through and makes you laugh. Yes it’s a bit offensive but I find Abbott deeply offensive. I like the song but have never listened to the lyrics as much as when I watched this – it’s almost like the song was written just for him.
The quotes from Smuggles are not from his uni days, they are all recent and the ad makes that plain. I donated. People need to be reminded who the real Smuggles is and what he stands for!
jane – the first two quotes are from 1979. Perhaps they are trying to show that he hasn’t changed, but maybe they would have been better off just using the more recent ones.
I donated $20 … let’s see how it goes
Point taken, Chris. It does demonstrate that this particular leopard hasn’t changed his spots.
And at my age, 1979 is recent!
I think they’ve made a mistake mixing up indigenous issues here. It muddies the waters completely.
there were a couple of quotes in this ad from 1979, but tony abbott recently (as in 2010) has publicly stated that he stands by these comments and that his views haven’t changed. ’nuff said.
I agree with Fine (from the bottom of the comments). They should have stuck to ‘womens issues’ to make this advertisment more powerful, or if they felt the need to include Indigenous issues, the quotes should have been said by some Indigenous women.
But anything agaisnt Abbott is a good thing, if Liberal get voted in it will be a very sad day for Austrlaia. Not just for the fact that Abbott will be Prime Minister, but becuase it rreflects the backwards nature of a majority of Australia.