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26 responses to “Teacher-librarians: a dying profession?”

  1. tigtog

    Brian, thank you for the background detail on how what would have been excellent planning for the future 20 years ago was sideswiped to leave us with the gutted system we have now.

    The strength of librarian expertise is the systems they know and use for the organised archiving of information so that that it can be recalled efficiently when and only when it’s needed: this is exactly the sort of skill that should be taught with the schools’ new focus on computer resources – losing that key expertise because some technician IT types understand the computer itself better is a tragic missing of the point.

  2. Russell

    “The strength of librarian expertise is the systems they know and use …”

    Well, that’s one of our areas of expertise. Depending on the the library and clients, knowledge is crucially important. Knowing the subject, your collection, and other sources of information. It’s built up over decades of experience, and these days valued at about zero.

    An example from last week: driving to work I was listening to a live broadcast on Classic FM. A piece was announced as being ‘by the South American composer ????’ sounded like Natale, Nattali, Na…. of whom I’d never heard. Incredibly beautiful and well played by some kid in Shepparton.

    So I looked at the Classic FM website but the program there was the one they would have played had they not been doing the live broadcast. Very helpful. So I emailed them: what was played this morning at 8.50 etc? and got back a cut and paste of the program that hadn’t been broadcast.

    To cut a long story short, I couldn’t get the answer out of Classic FM, and my excellent Googling skills didn’t help. So I contacted a librarian who had worked in the music section of the State Library, who was able to answer in a second “that would be Gnattali, with a G”.

    Moral – you need people who actually know stuff.

  3. Sedge

    Don’t get my wife started on this one. A librarian and thereafter a school librarian. Her mantra is “When you’re there they don’t notice you, they take you for granted, you’re background noise. Then if you’re away for whatever reason the cry is “How did that happen?”

    The devaluation is palpable.

  4. tigtog

    @Russell,

    Moral – you need people who actually know stuff.

    My apologies, Russell. I never meant to imply otherwise. My sentence about librarians’ systematising skills was meant to incorporate the direct knowledge aspect as part of the package of librarian skills, but I phrased it poorly. Knowing your catalogue intimately is crucial to knowing how best to apply those systematising skills to archiving that catalogue for others to access, and for keeping those systems ticking over so that items don’t get misplaced and thus inaccessible. It’s all a glorious circle of knowledge!

  5. Russell

    Tig Tog – no apologies needed, librarians love their systems (I think we can claim to have invented effective metadata), but these days most generalist librarians have access via the web to vast amounts of information, so need to know as much about dealing with that as with their own systems.

    But real subject knowledge is vital for many librarians – look at the example I gave. Law is another area – all sorts of people turn up at a state library who need help with the law and God help them if they don’t find someone who knows what they’re doing.

    Catalogs will never capture the knowledge and context that experienced librarians use to connect a particular person with the the information they need.

  6. dj

    I am glad to see this issue get a run on a blog outside of the profession.

    It’s not just schools that seem to undervalue librarians (and those of us that have had our titles changed) – major research and policy organizations also seem to have a misguided notion that ‘all we need is ‘. Witness the mind boggling efforts at the EPA in the US as an example.

  7. dj

    correction:

    ‘all we need is (insert the name of your favorite search engine here)!’

    Then again if you’re reading this post, you probably guessed that.

  8. Guido

    As a University Librarian I am sometimes surprised at how little first year students know about libraries and how they work. I will now fall into ‘in my days’ mode. But during my final year at high school we were expected to know how to use a library catalogue and find a book. Now they seem to get these ‘study packs’ where all the material is there for them to use. So when they reach tertiary study we have to organise what we call ‘literacy information skill’ classes to teach them how to use the library. I believe that perhaps if the Librarian role was still important at High School we wouldn’t need to do much of that.

  9. dj

    @Guido

    You would probably not be surprised but people can actually manage to graduate (even with a PhD) and still need Information Literacy training…;D

  10. Russell

    Information Literacy training. I had assumed that students used libraries until my own nieces and nephews hit honours and then asked for help since they had never actually visited the uni library. By that stage they’d apparently missed the window of opportunity in brain development that allows learning information literacy. It was easier for me to do all their research. Which meant reading and copying the stuff, so I highlighted the parts they really needed to read as I went. That’s service.

    Brian – you don’t like abstracting?? I spent two years in the National Agricultural Library in Indonesia abstracting articles in their agricultural research magazines. Everyday conversation was difficult because although I had a massive vocabulary related to chicken diseases etc I didn’t have the vocab for much else!

  11. Robert Merkel

    Perhaps I’m just ridiculously naive, but I would have thought that even an educational bureaucrat would be able to appreciate that:

    a) schools need both areas of expertise available to students and teachers.
    b) that expertise won’t necessarily be found in the same person.

  12. Frustrated TL

    My secondary school has 1500+ students and I am the sole TL.
    I also teach 2 Senior classes. We had another TL years ago but when she retired she wasn’t replaced. I know that if I left I wouldn’t be replaced by a qualified TL but by someone the admin wanted to shift sideways.
    School Libraries are soft targets. Budgets and timetable load can be eroded to prop up other school priorities, often technology.
    It seems ironic that the Federal government would spend so much money constructing new school libraries when State Education Departments are reluctant to staff them adequately or at all. Cynics may say that the BER was not about educational outcomes at all.
    The result of this is a student population already brought up in a culture of cutting and pasting/ pirating anything they want doing assignments using Google and Wikipedia.
    They are able to design websites and nifty Flash games but are unable to spell or write grammatically because they simply don’t read anything of value anymore.

  13. Graham Bell

    Brian:
    Important topic (IMHO). Can’t comment yet; have downloaded and shall read it thoroughly next weekend.

  14. dj

    I think that’s what you get when the people making the decisions are not information literate and never had the benefit of interacting with a good librarian.

    There are also many people who assume that the knowledge/information model for their particular domain of expertise reflects that of all other domains and thus everything will be available on demand at the click of a button and the resolution of a link.

  15. Graham Bell

    Brian:

    Apologies for taking so long to respond to your interesting and important topic.

    What a shame. It sounds like the efficiencies and the administrative style of Brezhnev’s Soviet Union are surviving and prospering in the Australian schools system.

    We come from two different backgrounds: you, a teacher; me, a member of the general public …. so here goes ….

    So far as I’m concerned, EVERY school, no matter where and no matter how small, should have four things:

    1. a Classroom – where learning can be encouraged and happen; a indoor laboratory with basic equipment would be nice too. 2. an Office – where activities can be planned and assessments analyzed for the benefit of each and every student. 3. a Playground – where physical training, sports and PLAY can happen: some basic gymnasium equipment and access to safe swimming facilities are needed too. and …. 4. a Library – where knowledge can be hunted down and organized …. knowledge that comes out of old-fashioned cloth-bound paper books as well as out of the latest bit of fashionable gee-whizzery.

    Any school without all four of these basic things is only a pretend-school, a mere factory for churning out future consumers and shoppers, an ignorance mill, a kid-holding pen.

    Naturally, each of these four would have at least one permanent full-time staff member dedicated to it.

    Labour intensive? My oath!! Expensive? Too right!! And so it should be.

    As it is, we already have many tens-of-thousands of very, very expensive people wasting oxygen on “make-work” in the bludger economy so we can well-and-truly afford to quadruple the staff of every small school in the nation – and increase the staff of every larger school too. There are no excuses, other than timidity and the lack of political will, for not doing this right now. As for the credentialist’s excuse of not having enough “qualified” people to do the job, let’s try something novel, like a bit of flexibility, like stamping on the 21st century’s medieval guilds, like giving Principals more local autonomy, so that people with the broad ability to do the job can be employed.

    I also see our schools as an underutilized resource in each community. I would rather see all of them used for educating the young by day – and as community meeting and learning centres in the evenings …. and if we can achieve that, why not have TWO teacher-librarians for each and every school? One on day shift, the other on afternoon/evening shift.

    We CAN afford it.

    [ btw, I liked your phrase "....the pigs took over the palace ...." . :-) ]