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		<title>Comment on Saturday Salon by Robert Merkel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500514</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No beans to spill, really.  Just a couple of guys from the Midwest who spent their days bailing out enlisted men who'd gotten themselves into bar fights, and, funnily enough, never got to take F-18's for joyrides...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No beans to spill, really.  Just a couple of guys from the Midwest who spent their days bailing out enlisted men who&#8217;d gotten themselves into bar fights, and, funnily enough, never got to take F-18&#8217;s for joyrides&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by charles</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500513</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500513</guid>
		<description>I think 
http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/08/29/political-equivalence/
pretty much sums it up. Pauline oh Pauline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think<br />
<a href="http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/08/29/political-equivalence/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/08/29/political-equivalence/'>[link]</a><br />
pretty much sums it up. Pauline oh Pauline.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the futility of arguing about Hayek, or what&#8217;s in a name? by GregM</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/on-the-futility-of-arguing-about-hayek-or-whats-in-a-name/#comment-500509</link>
		<dc:creator>GregM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/on-the-futility-of-arguing-about-hayek-or-whats-in-a-name/#comment-500509</guid>
		<description>Now young Emma don't trouble your pretty head with things you don't understand.

Marx's critique of Hegel's Philosophy in General (his third Manuscript) clearly shows him to be an anti-humanist, or as Adrien prefers, a contrahumanist.

Best you stick with whatever Jane Austen novel is on your grade 12 english class curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now young Emma don&#8217;t trouble your pretty head with things you don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Marx&#8217;s critique of Hegel&#8217;s Philosophy in General (his third Manuscript) clearly shows him to be an anti-humanist, or as Adrien prefers, a contrahumanist.</p>
<p>Best you stick with whatever Jane Austen novel is on your grade 12 english class curriculum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturday Salon by joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500508</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500508</guid>
		<description>That would now be Sarahs' job, Kim, as the merkel is likely an endangered species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would now be Sarahs&#8217; job, Kim, as the merkel is likely an endangered species.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Robert Merkel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500507</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500507</guid>
		<description>As Benjamin &lt;a HREF="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/obamas-convention-speech/#comment-500190" rel="nofollow"&gt;pointed out&lt;/A&gt; on the Obama speech thread, by American standards Obama's convention speech contained some fairly unapologetic advocacy  for something approximating social democracy, even if far more watered-down than one might like.  

Longer term, the fundraising techniques used by Obama's campaign (not that they came out of nowhere by any means) might help reduce the stranglehold corporates have on the Democratic Party.  This might improve the chances for social democracy more than anything else he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Benjamin <a HREF="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/obamas-convention-speech/#comment-500190" rel="nofollow">pointed out</a> on the Obama speech thread, by American standards Obama&#8217;s convention speech contained some fairly unapologetic advocacy  for something approximating social democracy, even if far more watered-down than one might like.  </p>
<p>Longer term, the fundraising techniques used by Obama&#8217;s campaign (not that they came out of nowhere by any means) might help reduce the stranglehold corporates have on the Democratic Party.  This might improve the chances for social democracy more than anything else he does.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500506</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500506</guid>
		<description>"Sarah Palin" will be a seldom achieved correct answer to a question in the 2020 edition of Trivial Pursuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarah Palin&#8221; will be a seldom achieved correct answer to a question in the 2020 edition of Trivial Pursuit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hidden Queensland: Griffith REVIEW by Ziggy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/25/hidden-queensland-griffith-review/#comment-500505</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/25/hidden-queensland-griffith-review/#comment-500505</guid>
		<description>I've had lunch there a few times - the food was respectable, and the decor and patrons make for an authentic sort of atmosphere. It's certainly a lot nicer than the other standard issue noodle bars in that sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had lunch there a few times - the food was respectable, and the decor and patrons make for an authentic sort of atmosphere. It&#8217;s certainly a lot nicer than the other standard issue noodle bars in that sector.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturday Salon by Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500504</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he did that, joe2, John McCain would have to shoot him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he did that, joe2, John McCain would have to shoot him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Feminism good for families by Megan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/27/feminism-good-for-families/#comment-500503</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/27/feminism-good-for-families/#comment-500503</guid>
		<description>'The thing is Megan, I don’t think some columnist at The Age = feminism.'

Maybe not Kim, but one comment in a mainstream publication from a well-known mainstream columnist is enough to make me angry and conclude that she thinks that just because one way of life works for her, that it should work for every other woman too.  It is hard to combine work and family and the reality of many women's lives who have children is that they work part time.  I've read that some stats indicate they are quite happy doing that - actually happier than the groups who either stayed home altogether or worked full time.  I guess it depends on how one defines feminism.  If it means  the right for women to get a decent education and to make a decent living, then I'm all for it.  And if it also means that men should be taking an equal responsibility in bringing up the children then I'm all for it too.  And if Coontz's stats are right - it works.  How women achieve all that equilibrium of happily combining work and family responsibilities however is none of anybody's goddamn business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The thing is Megan, I don’t think some columnist at The Age = feminism.&#8217;</p>
<p>Maybe not Kim, but one comment in a mainstream publication from a well-known mainstream columnist is enough to make me angry and conclude that she thinks that just because one way of life works for her, that it should work for every other woman too.  It is hard to combine work and family and the reality of many women&#8217;s lives who have children is that they work part time.  I&#8217;ve read that some stats indicate they are quite happy doing that - actually happier than the groups who either stayed home altogether or worked full time.  I guess it depends on how one defines feminism.  If it means  the right for women to get a decent education and to make a decent living, then I&#8217;m all for it.  And if it also means that men should be taking an equal responsibility in bringing up the children then I&#8217;m all for it too.  And if Coontz&#8217;s stats are right - it works.  How women achieve all that equilibrium of happily combining work and family responsibilities however is none of anybody&#8217;s goddamn business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturday Salon by joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500502</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500502</guid>
		<description>"Kaiserslautern on a Friday night is full of US military personnel; I had a rather amusing conversation with some JAG lawyers about how similar their job was to the TV show."

Go on Robert, spill the Sauerkraut. Sounds interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kaiserslautern on a Friday night is full of US military personnel; I had a rather amusing conversation with some JAG lawyers about how similar their job was to the TV show.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go on Robert, spill the Sauerkraut. Sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500499</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500499</guid>
		<description>Stoopid forgetting to log in thing!

Have hangover...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoopid forgetting to log in thing!</p>
<p>Have hangover&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Emma in grade 12 english class</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500498</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma in grade 12 english class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500498</guid>
		<description>An "unreconstructed socialist", Craig? What I'm talking about is very moderate social democracy! The US system - both parties - is very right wing in its centre position compared to anything we have here!

Leinad at 6, there can be dumb cynicism as well as smart cynicism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An &#8220;unreconstructed socialist&#8221;, Craig? What I&#8217;m talking about is very moderate social democracy! The US system - both parties - is very right wing in its centre position compared to anything we have here!</p>
<p>Leinad at 6, there can be dumb cynicism as well as smart cynicism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the futility of arguing about Hayek, or what&#8217;s in a name? by Emma in grade 12 english class</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/on-the-futility-of-arguing-about-hayek-or-whats-in-a-name/#comment-500497</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma in grade 12 english class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marx' early work was very humanist, Adrien. "Species being" and all that.

Sorry, too tired today to respond to the rest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marx&#8217; early work was very humanist, Adrien. &#8220;Species being&#8221; and all that.</p>
<p>Sorry, too tired today to respond to the rest!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Craig Mc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500495</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500495</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Check out any public opinion survey on what the great majority of Americans think about universal healthcare, employee rights, minimum wage, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Then check the polls for government control of healthcare, unions, and government control of wages.

Kim's got a point though.  For once I'd like an unreconstructed socialist run on what they really believe in, rather than tack to the centre after the primaries.  Then once they've failed with about 10% of the vote they might stop whining about "the system" repressing their message.

In that sense it's refreshing they've picked Barry.  He's as close to what they really want as they'll ever get.  Gore was just an incumbent, and Kerry was a contrived pick (they really wanted Dean but thought Herman Munster was more electable), but this time their ideas will get a run - even if the GOP run them on behalf of Barry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Check out any public opinion survey on what the great majority of Americans think about universal healthcare, employee rights, minimum wage, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then check the polls for government control of healthcare, unions, and government control of wages.</p>
<p>Kim&#8217;s got a point though.  For once I&#8217;d like an unreconstructed socialist run on what they really believe in, rather than tack to the centre after the primaries.  Then once they&#8217;ve failed with about 10% of the vote they might stop whining about &#8220;the system&#8221; repressing their message.</p>
<p>In that sense it&#8217;s refreshing they&#8217;ve picked Barry.  He&#8217;s as close to what they really want as they&#8217;ll ever get.  Gore was just an incumbent, and Kerry was a contrived pick (they really wanted Dean but thought Herman Munster was more electable), but this time their ideas will get a run - even if the GOP run them on behalf of Barry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Geoff Honnor</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500493</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Honnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500493</guid>
		<description>"Well, Geoff, if it’s so easy, why don’t  you  go and do it?"

And spend a year making personal appearances in Barrow, Fairbanks, Nome and Anchorage, Paulus? You've got to be kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, Geoff, if it’s so easy, why don’t  you  go and do it?&#8221;</p>
<p>And spend a year making personal appearances in Barrow, Fairbanks, Nome and Anchorage, Paulus? You&#8217;ve got to be kidding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obligatory Obama acclamation &#038; McCain Veep selection thread by Paulus</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500491</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/obligatory-obama-acclamation-mccain-veep-selection-thread/#comment-500491</guid>
		<description>Kim, your last comment has set my head spinning with visions of how these issues must be playing out behind the scenes. :)


Scene: Obama's campaign headquarters.

CHIEF OF STAFF: Sir, we've just put the latest public opinion survey data through the mainframe, and matched it with the distribution of electoral college votes.

There's no question about it. The regressions show that you'd win in a landslide in November, if you constructed your platform around universal healthcare, employee rights, and the minimum wage.

OBAMA: But, Waylon, it would annoy the business community if I did that. And where would that get me?

COS: To the White House, Sir.

OBAMA: Well, you know, I don't want to be President &lt;i&gt; that badly. &lt;/i&gt; Senator McCain seems a decent guy, and it wouldn't bother me at all if he got up in November.

No, although having a progressive platform is such an &lt;i&gt; obvious &lt;/i&gt; route to electoral success, in the interests of a level playing field with the Republicans, I'll forego it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, your last comment has set my head spinning with visions of how these issues must be playing out behind the scenes. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Scene: Obama&#8217;s campaign headquarters.</p>
<p>CHIEF OF STAFF: Sir, we&#8217;ve just put the latest public opinion survey data through the mainframe, and matched it with the distribution of electoral college votes.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no question about it. The regressions show that you&#8217;d win in a landslide in November, if you constructed your platform around universal healthcare, employee rights, and the minimum wage.</p>
<p>OBAMA: But, Waylon, it would annoy the business community if I did that. And where would that get me?</p>
<p>COS: To the White House, Sir.</p>
<p>OBAMA: Well, you know, I don&#8217;t want to be President <i> that badly. </i> Senator McCain seems a decent guy, and it wouldn&#8217;t bother me at all if he got up in November.</p>
<p>No, although having a progressive platform is such an <i> obvious </i> route to electoral success, in the interests of a level playing field with the Republicans, I&#8217;ll forego it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the futility of arguing about Hayek, or what&#8217;s in a name? by Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/on-the-futility-of-arguing-about-hayek-or-whats-in-a-name/#comment-500490</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/29/on-the-futility-of-arguing-about-hayek-or-whats-in-a-name/#comment-500490</guid>
		<description>No Kim. I haven't. So?
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You can't argue that Marx's writings are "incompatible political prescriptions, analyses, and strategies, loosely interlinked" and not a “coherent system of ideas" on the one hand and then on the other try and challenge &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihumanism#Origins" rel="nofollow"&gt;the conventional view&lt;/a&gt; of Marx as anti-humanist, along with Nietzsche and Freud - &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; anti-humanist, on the basis of one of his bits of esoterica.
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Anti-humanism of course is an hyperbolous nomenclature perhaps contrahumanism might be better. 
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In any event it has no bearing on my point that Marx's philosophy of economic and political evolution was apparently contradicted by his participation in socialist activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Kim. I haven&#8217;t. So?<br />
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You can&#8217;t argue that Marx&#8217;s writings are &#8220;incompatible political prescriptions, analyses, and strategies, loosely interlinked&#8221; and not a “coherent system of ideas&#8221; on the one hand and then on the other try and challenge <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihumanism#Origins" rel="nofollow">the conventional view</a> of Marx as anti-humanist, along with Nietzsche and Freud - <i>the</i> anti-humanist, on the basis of one of his bits of esoterica.<br />
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Anti-humanism of course is an hyperbolous nomenclature perhaps contrahumanism might be better.<br />
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In any event it has no bearing on my point that Marx&#8217;s philosophy of economic and political evolution was apparently contradicted by his participation in socialist activity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saturday Salon by Brett</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/30/saturday-salon-155/#comment-500487</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ta!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Advance Australia Fair? by Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/28/advance-australia-fair/#comment-500486</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/28/advance-australia-fair/#comment-500486</guid>
		<description>Postglobalism -
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You seem to be assuming that I'm somehow waving the neoliberal banner. I'm not. As far as I can see the political machine comes along and accepts as gospel any economic guruism that works, until it doesn't. Keynes was the guru then that ran aground and the neoliberals took over. They'll snuff it soon enough. Both seem to over-simplify economic data and rewrite history to suit their own theories. 
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My admonition that Australians rely too much on the government to solve problems isn't part of neoliberal discourse altho' I s'pose one could be forgiven for thinking so. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;...and when it becomes hip to encourage a youth culture aspiring after role models like Corey Worthington, 50 Cent, and the big brother inmates, then I think logically speaking that is a culture reverting too much into the private and the social symptoms no doubt become evident.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There's a well known notion of cultural fluctuation which presents three stages - the primitive, the classical and the decadent. The latter usually overlaps the first. That is when one ethos has run aground there's another fresh ethos somewhere emerging to replace it. 
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The whole gangsta rap, fame for fame type shit that Wothington and Fiddy represent is the result of the liberation from stifling values first emerging in the 50s with youth culture. This phenomena is inherently materialistic and hedonistic. Nothing wrong with that inherently. However when you overthrow a set of mores you'll tend to need to replace it with something. This replacement process takes time. In the meantime you get venality. 
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It's becoming increasingly obvious to people that, for example, there's a widespread lack of manners in society today. When there is such a lack the need to fill it becomes acute. And the result is that it gets filled. 
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In terms of community I think you have to understand that communities are changing drastically. This blog is a community of sorts yes? One that would've been impossible, inconceivable just 20 years ago. On the other hand the traditional notion of community involving people who live and work in the same place is mostly a thing of the past. Many of us live in apartment buildings, most of us don't know our neighbours. And don't want to. 
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I tend to think that community service is a good thing but that it won't be well served by insistence. How do you &lt;i&gt;effectively&lt;/i&gt; insist that children be raised in a two parent home?  What morals do you teach at school? Some parents might insist on Judeao-Christian lore, some may strenuously object to that? See the problem? How do you insist on community service?
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There is a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associationalism" rel="nofollow"&gt;political philosophy&lt;/a&gt; that addresses these concerns. Unfortunately it's not much in vogue these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Postglobalism -<br />
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You seem to be assuming that I&#8217;m somehow waving the neoliberal banner. I&#8217;m not. As far as I can see the political machine comes along and accepts as gospel any economic guruism that works, until it doesn&#8217;t. Keynes was the guru then that ran aground and the neoliberals took over. They&#8217;ll snuff it soon enough. Both seem to over-simplify economic data and rewrite history to suit their own theories.<br />
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My admonition that Australians rely too much on the government to solve problems isn&#8217;t part of neoliberal discourse altho&#8217; I s&#8217;pose one could be forgiven for thinking so. </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;and when it becomes hip to encourage a youth culture aspiring after role models like Corey Worthington, 50 Cent, and the big brother inmates, then I think logically speaking that is a culture reverting too much into the private and the social symptoms no doubt become evident.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a well known notion of cultural fluctuation which presents three stages - the primitive, the classical and the decadent. The latter usually overlaps the first. That is when one ethos has run aground there&#8217;s another fresh ethos somewhere emerging to replace it.<br />
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The whole gangsta rap, fame for fame type shit that Wothington and Fiddy represent is the result of the liberation from stifling values first emerging in the 50s with youth culture. This phenomena is inherently materialistic and hedonistic. Nothing wrong with that inherently. However when you overthrow a set of mores you&#8217;ll tend to need to replace it with something. This replacement process takes time. In the meantime you get venality.<br />
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It&#8217;s becoming increasingly obvious to people that, for example, there&#8217;s a widespread lack of manners in society today. When there is such a lack the need to fill it becomes acute. And the result is that it gets filled.<br />
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In terms of community I think you have to understand that communities are changing drastically. This blog is a community of sorts yes? One that would&#8217;ve been impossible, inconceivable just 20 years ago. On the other hand the traditional notion of community involving people who live and work in the same place is mostly a thing of the past. Many of us live in apartment buildings, most of us don&#8217;t know our neighbours. And don&#8217;t want to.<br />
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I tend to think that community service is a good thing but that it won&#8217;t be well served by insistence. How do you <i>effectively</i> insist that children be raised in a two parent home?  What morals do you teach at school? Some parents might insist on Judeao-Christian lore, some may strenuously object to that? See the problem? How do you insist on community service?<br />
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There is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associationalism" rel="nofollow">political philosophy</a> that addresses these concerns. Unfortunately it&#8217;s not much in vogue these days.</p>
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		<description>Ta, Leinad, for the link.

Turns out the next V.P., Sarah, is an avid blogger, as well.
http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ta, Leinad, for the link.</p>
<p>Turns out the next V.P., Sarah, is an avid blogger, as well.<br />
<a href="http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/'>[link]</a></p>
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