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		<title>The American Possum (and the Australian Possum)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/22/the-american-possum-and-the-australian-possum/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first discovered FiveThirtyEight.Com (courtesy of Down and Out of Sài Gòn on one of the American election threads here at LP, if I recall correctly), I thought of Nate Silver as America&#8217;s Possum. Coincidentally, there&#8217;s a profile of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first discovered <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/">FiveThirtyEight.Com</a> (courtesy of <a href="http://tphcm.blogspot.com/">Down and Out of Sài Gòn</a> on one of the American election threads here at LP, if I recall correctly), I thought of Nate Silver as America&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/">Possum</a>. Coincidentally, there&#8217;s a profile of Silver published in <a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/51170/"><i>New York</i> magazine</a> which makes some very similar points about the emergence of a statistician doing psephological wonkery as an avocation into a major source of expertise and information on elections as an <a href="http://www.pjreview.info/issues/docs/14_2/Nash_Playing%20possum.pdf">article</a> sounding that theme from Monash University Journalism Professor Chris Nash in the new edition of the <a href="http://www.pjreview.info/issues/14_02_08.html"><i>Pacific Journalism Review</i></a>.</p>
<p>Just think what elections would be like without Possums and Silvers! If all we had to rely on for psephological goodness was the dead tree media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>B&#8230; b&#8230; bounce?</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/18/b-b-bounce/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oks, there&#8217;s got to be some way to work this into a drinking game. Just to prove that political tragics are rooly cool like the kidz on West Wing and not strange nerds really. Possum has enabled a feature on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Oks, there&#8217;s got to be some way to work this into a drinking game. Just to prove that political tragics are rooly cool like the kidz on West Wing and not strange nerds really.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2008/09/18/what-size-a-turnbull-poll-bounce/">Possum</a> has enabled a feature on his blog where you can guess the size of any Newspoll bounce that might occur now that Malcolm Turnbull is Oppo Leader. Wisdom of crowds and all that. No mention of any prizes (hint! hint!*) &#8211; at least you can make a buck from the betting markets&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>So saying, the average Coalition bounce from a leadership change was 5.7% on the primary and 6% on the TPP. This compares to Labor’s average leadership change bounce of 3.6% on the primary and 1.7% on the TPP. The total average leadership change bounce was 4.6% on the primary and 3.8% on the TPP across the 6 historical examples we have available.</p></blockquote>
<p>And I&#8217;ve got my own idea for a bit of crowd sourced political commentary. Let&#8217;s pretend <b>we&#8217;re</b> the press gallery and set a % which, if not met, will be decried as a setback, or completely unrelated and probably because of the current position of the moon in the lunar cycle, depending on what mood Dennis Shanahan et al are in. And then we can set a % sufficient to ensure the production of headlines like &#8220;Australian politics has fundamentally changed&#8221;, &#8220;the honeymoon is now over&#8221;, &#8220;Turnbull reinvigorates Coalition&#8221; etc, etc.</p>
<p>Be your own press gallery. Write your own political narrative.</p>
<p><b>Ps</b>: If Turnbull can&#8217;t get 5% on the 2PP, he&#8217;s toast. <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24362387-7583,00.html">Peter Costello is willing to be drafted.</a> <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*<b>Update</b>: <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/18/b-b-bounce/#comment-511473">Now there&#8217;s a prize</a>!</p>
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		<title>Possum fights back</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Possum isn&#8217;t going to take being dissed by Christian Kerr and the &#8220;balance and fact&#8221; crew at The Australian lying down: Update [by Mark]: Jason Wilson at Gatewatching espies a tipping point in the Australian political blogosphere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/major-announcement/">Possum</a> isn&#8217;t going to take being <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/22/christian-kerr-troll-blogging-at-the-australian/">dissed by Christian Kerr and the &#8220;balance and fact&#8221; crew at <i>The Australian</i></a> lying down:</p>
<p><b>Update</b> [by Mark]: Jason Wilson at <a href="http://gatewatching.org/2008/08/25/long-time-between-drinksthe-second-wave/">Gatewatching</a> espies a tipping point in the Australian political blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>Guest post by Possum Comitatus: Betting markets in the absence of the polls</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MB writes: I&#8217;ve always been of the view that the &#8220;wisdom of the crowd&#8221; hypothesis doesn&#8217;t work very well in the case of prediction markets for elections &#8211; because the number of insiders who have relevant information not available to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>MB writes:</strong> I&#8217;ve always been of the view that the &#8220;wisdom of the crowd&#8221; hypothesis doesn&#8217;t work very well in the case of prediction markets for elections &#8211; because the number of insiders who have relevant information not available to anyone else is miniscule. One instance I followed closely was the Queensland state election &#8211; where the odds for the number of seats Labor would win very closely paralleled what the polls and the pundits were saying. I actually did have a bit of inside info, and I made about 1500 bucks, which I couldn&#8217;t have done if there&#8217;d been tons of people with access to such info. Possum&#8217;s piece in <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20080811-NT-result-bad-for-the-ALP-even-worse-for-pundits.html">Crikey</a> today, I think goes some way to confirming my view that the markets are basically parasitic on the polls because in the absence of any, punters went with &#8220;received wisdom&#8221;, which got the result spectacularly wrong.</em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/">Possum</a> writes:</strong> If you were to look at the betting markets for the NT election last week, you’d be forgiven for thinking that the ALP had a greater chance of being abducted by the latest outbreak of NT UFO’s than they had of being beaten by the CLP. Yet, with no major pollster running pre-election surveys in the Territory, should we be at all surprised that the markets got it so wrong in terms of the chance of Labor retaining government?</p>
<p>As much as political polling is scorned as reducing important political issues down to little more than horse race commentary, it fulfills one fundamentally important role &#8212; it stops people talking sh-t.</p>
<p>From politicians to columnists, from reporters to your average Joe – political polling encourages all but the learned types at <em>The Australian</em> to keep it in their pants.</p>
<p><span id="more-6966"></span>With no major polls in the Territory election, information about the election itself was dominated by party propaganda on the one hand and political commentators staring deeply into their navels on the other &#8211; usually finding little more than lint as a result, but lint dressed up as profundity none the less. Without polling information, election campaign analysis becomes an exercise in either wishful thinking or what ought to happen &#8212; and as we’ve seen in the Territory, theories on what ought to happen were well formed, plentiful, but mostly wrong. There is no substitute for the type of empirical reality that only polling can provide.</p>
<p>It’s a pretty simple rule &#8212; you can’t really analyse what you don’t really know.</p>
<p>What makes betting markets valuable is their capacity to aggregate all available sources of information to predict a result, but without polling information anchoring the market to some semblance of reality, without that knowledge of what people are actually thinking on the ground, the betting markets were left drifting in the breeze, ostensibly being guided by lint powered column inches telling us that Labor was a shoe in because, well, that&#8217;s what ought to happen.</p>
<p>So should we really be surprised that without political polls running in the Territory campaign, the markets were so out of whack with the result? While the markets may have gotten the end result right, the magnitude of the victory will probably come down to a few hundred votes &#8212; hardly the landslide that was predicted, and certainly not justifying 1/14 odds that some markets were offering.</p>
<p>Good information makes good markets, and there is no better information than good, independent polling. It provides far more than fodder for horse race political commentary, it provides certainty and knowledge and evidence for observable reality. And at the end of the day, isn&#8217;t observable reality what all good political commentary should be about?</p>
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