Larvatus Prodeo chatroom transcript * Lefty E : My favourite moment of the debate: Rudd on reconcilation, with good humanising hand gestures (for a change!) saying its just about respect, and building a bridge. * Mat : I wonder which is worse for Howard. That the worm was pulled or that Rudd won the debate? * Guest_2268 : Does this thing work? * Guest_2268 : Howard needs worm tablets. * Guest_2268 : Test * CK : And, as always, no problem Shaun. * CK : Or maybe 14 year-old twat * CK : Thread trolled by Libs * Laurie Croaks : fell over more than glenn milne at the walkleys * Laurie Croaks : this chat room sucked * Oh well : Heard there was a good discussion. Heard wrong * Shaun : SMH online poll has Rudd on 72%, Howard 17% and 8% undecided. * Shaun : Sorry about that CK. ALP Communist is in moderation. * Guest_2262 : What was the worm score in the end? * CK : And stop using my tag you slimy shit. * CK : Message to moderator, ALPC's comments are abit beyond the acceptable comments policy to say the least. It looks to me like blatantly false advertising, quite frankly. * CK : You're on ALP Communist. You me to slam dunk Margo Kingston. * Guest_568 : do you think newspoll will be same as nielsen * ALP Communist : How about CK. Some hot cock to swallow? * CK : Never met Tony Abbott or Peter Costello in my life * Guest_560 : sky has that drunk shill Milne spinning for Howard, sayiong he won on substance.. ha! * ALP Communist : Hi CK. Do we know each other? * CK : And really ALPC, if what you say is true, maybe it was because you were crap in bed. * CK : ALP Communist? Welcome to the thread Tony Abbott! * ALP Communist : Julia Gillard gave me shit stained balls * CK : I'm guessing the next newspoll is due out tomorrow or Tuesday. Galaxy, newspoll ("we own it"[smiley], the Fairfax whatsit ... it's a cavalcade of psephs! * Guest_3689 : ch 9 the piarate network * ALP Communist : Mark Bahnisch takes it up the date * Guest_568 : when is the next newspoll out? * Amanda : meaa * Julia is Hot : I'd love to feel Julia's in-betweens. * Jangari : did someone say there was an irc channel somehow related? * Harriet Vane : I'm off to read for a bit. Goodnight all, and I'll look forward to chatting on election night. * Frank Calabrese : DEbate starting in WA * Frank Calabrese : ÇlinkÈ * Harriet Vane : gah, 34/59 rather * Harriet Vane : news.com.au has 39 Howard/54 Rudd/6 Draw on their quickvote percentages * Jangari : he certainly did have a twitch when... Oakes? asked him a corker. * SBS Commie (MA) : good times guys, LP debate watch 2007 done, election night could be the climax, later * Rob : I'm for bed, folks. Thanks to RC for setting this up. Cheers. * CK : As I din't watch, but listened on radio, did the Crodent have the Twitch? * SBS Commie (MA) : yeh rudd show toughness, more than usual * Frank Calabrese : CK: so do I - and still waiting for Nein to start here in Perth, and ACA will lead with the Worm being tampered with * Harriet Vane : CK, me too. He was on message, sounded less rehearsed than usual and stayed positive. He also showed he had the balls to call Howard on not answering questions. * SBS Commie (MA) : ;( there will be internet parties for sure, LP would have something like this but i hope abit better * fiztig : It will be interesting to see if the stories tomorrow are the worm verdict and the pulling of Channel 9's feed * CK : I'll call it a Rudd win. * Harriet Vane : I have no political friends to party with [smiley] * Harriet Vane : I've got a friend with a substantial IRC network who I might ask if he wants an invasion on election night if anyone is interested * fiztig : sky also talking about the worm * CK : You're right Harriet, liveblogging to 2006 Congressionals was much easier. I have a crush on Annabel too. * SBS Commie (MA) : yeh got my internet capped for over usage * Harriet Vane : I think you'd be bottoming in that pairing * ALP Commie : Can I have Julia In the ass now? * Mr Mixa : Looking forward to saying 'Good Riddance' to Howard forever. Yup. Nite all. * Harriet Vane : SBS COmmie, just the LP stuff that's slow for me * CK : WTF what tas all about? Australia has an "evolving role" in Iraq? I thought we'd ALREADY trained the troops and were now in overwatch. We're now back to training the troops? * kat : 65-29 to rudd * SBS Commie (MA) : do tell, internet is the slow for me * Harriet Vane : Gah I keep getting errors and dropping out * Frank Calabrese : From poll bludger - Worm verdict * SBS Commie (MA) : poor howie * Mr Mixa : Go the Teachers Union [smiley] * SBS Commie (MA) : heh, the unions stole christmas * john ryan : Syk viewers in NZ get a vote on SKY * Minotaur : Trust Ch9 to go all Australian Idol ... * Harriet Vane : You wonder if a union member did something horrible to him as a child * SBS Commie (MA) : i dont think ive ever come acrooss someone who had a hatred for unions like howard or his team * ALP Commie : Well stop getting your audience from ALP branches. * R Herring : Were Sky viewers watching the same debate? * Ptobias : yes, NTEU * Harriet Vane : CPSU for me * Harriet Vane : If we have another chat on election night, I hope the room doesn't die as fast. I keep getting errors. * Minotaur : 65% give it to Rudd!! * Guest_2818 : Worm for Rudd * Minotaur : Yup * Rob : Christ, 58% of Sky viewers said Hoard won -- so far. * R Herring : yep, fully paid up * blacklight : yup * john ryan : YES CMFEU * Harriet Vane : Yes * Mr Mixa : me now * SBS Commie (MA) : quick poll, union member at anytime of your life? me yes * Mr Mixa : Ask the Daily Terragraph * Harriet Vane : The worm lives in positive vibes, man! * SBS Commie (MA) : amanda are you glen milne, still on the sauce? * Minotaur : Definitely agree on the worm hating the negativity. * ABC Commie : Which is pretty typical for worms in general. * Mr Mixa : bouncy nouncy * casey : oh please * fiztig : so Howard got a pos on climate change fund and not saying sorry * Minotaur : Damn you Amanda - I wish I'd stayed [smiley] * ALP Commie : Fat chick sitting behind Annabelle might make for a nice threesome * SBS Commie (MA) : now come the excuses why howard was bad * Guest_1700 : hottie behind ray + hottie behind annabel * Harriet Vane : Amanda, are you in the news business? * SBS Commie (MA) : haha none likes howards team * ABC Commie : Heeh. Teh worm luv Cossie * fiztig : Costello is not a liked little bunny * Amanda : i like annabel. I see her at press conferences, and she makes conspiratorial eyes at me even though we have never spoken. * Minotaur : Remember the last debate? They pooh-poohed the ABC's swinging voters cos one of them had green hair. * fiztig : yes, let's look at how the worm went Ray * Harriet Vane : And Lenore Taylor from the AFR * pre-dawn leftist : annabel and julia anyone? * blacklight : harriet and annabell... woooooooo * Julia is Hot : Harriet you stick beak!! * SBS Commie (MA) : i have a boy crush on your crush on annabel * fiztig : Crabb gives me the itch - I find her quite annoying * pointy : i love Crabb * Harriet Vane : I have a girl crush on Annabel * pre-dawn leftist : They're right - it was Rudd all the way * Rob : Sky's giving it to Rudd. * Minotaur : Website doesn't like me ... * SBS Commie (MA) : annabel crabb on nine * Frank Calabrese : nein even * Harriet Vane : Argh, I keep getting kicked * Mr Mixa : Ha ha ha - from the greens live forum - "Applause and a worm boost for Rudd on climate change in our room. How interesting that Howard chose to introduce the issue. Who advised him to do that? Sack the adviser! Without any redundancy payout" * Julia is Hot : I want to corn hole Julia Gillard dry * SBS Commie (MA) : yep progress! * Guest_4351 : howard sounded a bit over it * Guest_4992 : Conclusion: Rudd 1 Howard 0 * Frank Calabrese : Hmm, Nedin mentioning Worm was sabotaged means Howard's days as a poster boy have finished * fiztig : interesting point just made on sky - Rudd's final comments based on the future, Howard's concentrated too much on history * pointy : not much on ABC * Rob : Where's the best commentary? * Harriet Vane : Yeah, I remember learning a lot of AU stuff at school * Mr Mixa : ABC analysis on right now - bugger the commercials * Guest_560 : gee, Packer must be a Rudd man * Amanda : NFI @ Rob. * Julia is Hot : Must have been because the worm stayed above the middle for Howard * SBS Commie (MA) : heh the worm prolly needed to take a dump, all the shit its was eating, * * fiztig : Harriet - I teach Aus history here in NSW - Howard's goal is really not much different from what we're already doing, just with more boringness added * Rob : Yeah, I didn't get that Amanda. What's he taling about? * Minotaur : I'd turn for Annabelle Crabb * Harriet Vane : hehe ch9 is a pirate! * Amanda : (mind you, ray martin was a creep at a recent dylan gig I was at, so I dont trust him) * pointy : Annabelle Crabb on ch9 * Amanda : ray martin says worm feed was lost, claims they were nobbled by people who dont like free speech!!! * Minotaur : Holy shit ... they're basically implying government sabotage !!! * fiztig : interesting * casey : the worm was upset by howard * Peter Hollo : Who won? * Harriet Vane : fiztig, my degree is in history and far too much of it was Aussie history. So painful! * pointy : the hairs still the same * pointy : RAY!!!! * Minotaur : The worm liked the start of Howard's closing speech but got bored at the end. * SBS Commie (MA) : a hot history teacher? * fairfaxer : is johnny gonna cry soon * Mr Mixa : Howards ATCs. An attempt to de-unionise TAFE * Harriet Vane : I'd rather kids learned some proper world history than about shitty minor Australian events * Guest_1700 : that was just surreal * Guest_4992 : Rudd tends to speak in specifics, while Howard uses more generalities. Pleasantly surprised at the number of policy details Rudd put forth and quite frankly frightened by Howard's relative lack of new policy. * SBS Commie (MA) : hahapanadering again, bogan vote * fiztig : well the history part is good for me, I'm a history teacher! [smiley] * Guest_560 : average worm * Amanda : worm is mifddling high _ people like the homilies but it isnt going to stick (one hopes) * Guest_3760 : reckon Pete might have done better than Johnny tonight. * SG : where's the worm? * Harriet Vane : It's a story largely irrelevant in the wider context of world history * Peter Hollo : Bring back revisionism! * fiztig : his education revolution is on Australian history??? * ABC Commie : The Worm is moderately warm * Minotaur : Black armband means you're not an Aussie apparently * pointy : 2 minutes up .... shut him up * fiztig : What on earth is he talking about???? * Rob : Don't think this is the right pitch, JH. * Guest_560 : a story about a cockeyed idealist * ABC Commie : because that story was nasty and white for 200 years * Julia is Hot : Would Miss Gillard jump up on stage and show us her norks. * pointy : omfg ... what a load of crap * casey : cause of you JHO * lauredhel : oh ffs narrative history * fiztig : oh gawd... culture wars * ABC Commie : dog whistle #2 * Minotaur : Howard sounds buggered * Guest_560 : Rudd mentioned Education * Harriet Vane : pointy, I'm sure there's a lot of marginalised groups they can pick on for another 3 years * Guest_2818 : The three Rs?!!! Hahaaa * gnpaaron : dead man walking * Achenar : last-minute policy annoucement by Howard? * SBS Commie (MA) : i wonder if howard is wearing 1950s underwear! HOT * casey : Im so surprised at how inept Howard has been * ABC Commie : A restoration of 1950s values! * fiztig : education has NOT been talked about a lot tonight! * Guest_3760 : reckon Pete might have done better than Johnny tonight. * pointy : but what are you going to do in the future howard * Guest_3760 : reckon Pete might have done better than Johnny tonight. * Harriet Vane : Howard believes in a 1950s Australia * lauredhel : I don't think I've ever heard "I'm an optimist" uttered in such a morose, dead-inside voice * Amanda : worm celebrating sputnik anniversary for rudd * SBS Commie (MA) : gnpaaron, howard never looks this lost * Harriet Vane : People will have forgotten about it by No 24 * blacklight : shanahans laest headline 'Howard nearly wins debate' * Julia is Hot : Gillard needs a good hard corn-holing. * ABC Commie : Howard's only won 1 of the 5 debates * pointy : good refereneces to 11 years of doing nothing * Harriet Vane : No wonder he only wanted one and so early * Guest_560 : incumbents always get smashed * gnpaaron : it's always worked before * john ryan : Howard would sell his granny if he thought there was a vote in it * gnpaaron : sbs exactly * ABC Commie : Ponies! Magic!!! * SBS Commie (MA) : gnpaaron, i think so, play the underdog * Guest_3123 : who knows, devious little b*ger * ALP Commie : What about Julia and Wayne? * Guest_1703 : not throwing...just beaten and outof date * SBS Commie (MA) : the worm in pants doesnt move to either of them, ;( * lauredhel : Howard's outgoing stiletto into Costello? * gnpaaron : guys, straw poll... is howard throwing the debate on purpose? * Guest_4992 : Rudd cool.Howard rather desperate. The worm in my house reacts badly everytime Howard bullies his way into overtime. * SBS Commie (MA) : man rudd knows his shit, howard weirdly seems abit lost * Mr Mixa : Howards gonna vote Labor * fiztig : Howard thought Rudd would actually make a promise like he foolishly did with interest rates in 2004 * Rob : Yeah bad question. * Tim : working families are WORSE off! * Minotaur : Those questions were awful! * gnpaaron : is howard supporting a controlled economy? * Peter Hollo : Hilarious reading this while not watching! * Guest_3760 : lol... Howard gawn... * Laurie Croaks : mentions Swan worm goes up * pointy : wtf sought of question is that??? * SBS Commie (MA) : shit ACA reporter here (TROLL) * Amanda : fug another wasted question. Who is running Howard's campaign?????? * gnpaaron : waste of a question * fiztig : that is the killer final question from Howard????? * Tim : oh yes lets worry about our IMAGE * Guest_4336 : eulogy song on ABC2 * Harriet Vane : Prestige? So we're doing this because we want to look cool? * blacklight : so..picked a winner... i mean its really hard to... [smiley] * Achenar : Alright this is the last Rudd, keep it up * troll : ee-eaaa--eee-aaa -I'm john howard -eee-aaa-aa-eee * casey : Howard thinks its 1984 * SBS Commie (MA) : TERROR FEAR THATS MY MESSAGE PRICKS * Amanda : our US allies: worm now at upper mantle, heading for solid iron core * JWH : worm swan dives! * Supun : they've already lost * fiztig : man... Howard is so 2001 * john ryan : Yeah well JH still thinks it 1934 * Laurie Croaks : Janette rocks * Guest_4351 : prestige? * Guest_1700 : every time he says 'believe', worm plummets * gnpaaron : SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!!!!! BLUHHHHHH DROWNING IN MY OWN IRRELEVANCE * Achenar : lol @ casey * SBS Commie (MA) : haha no dog kennel, shes well upset at having the live the HOUSE! * pointy : casey .. lol * arleeshr : i think people WILL believe it because PEOPLE ARE DUMB * casey : with the performance of the worm no doubt howard sleeps on the lounge every night * Rob : Voice is breaking up JH * troll : shoulder twitch ! * ABC Commie : Worm says otherwise, Johnny * JWH : he's rambling * Guest_1806 : Howard is irritable, and testy, and is not enjoying himself. Contrast with Rudd's demeanour. * Guest_3760 : crickets chirping at Blair's site. * Laurie Croaks : left shoulder watch begins * pointy : wtf is he going on about * Harriet Vane : I bet Janette will have him sleeping on the sofa tonight * Mr Mixa : there go the shoulder twitches! * casey : he looks tired and emotional * SBS Commie (MA) : doesnt howard politicise every thing * JWH : Howard's had enough, look at him * Laurie Croaks : Howard is everyone's Dad * arleeshr : worm gone * ABC Commie : "A couple day's time" * Harriet Vane : When he is cranky at you * Harriet Vane : John Howard sounds like one's dad * Laurie Croaks : Jo-Ho forgets microphone no works for interrupter, he should just keep talking * SBS Commie (MA) : howard have a drink, you have a dry mouth * Tim : what an a**hole * Achenar : Don't interrupt Rudd, Howard can do himself * arleeshr : oh no not a political fashion * casey : check the wormette * Guest_1806 : Rudd is well ahead. * pointy : fight fight fight * gnpaaron : howard breaking up * Guest_1703 : thanks * ABC Commie : Worm digging hole * john ryan : good one Harriet * fiztig : worm now neg * Guest_4978 : worm loves 'i'm a teapot' * Laurie Croaks : you should be able to buy that Howard tie by calling a 1800 number * fiztig : worm pos with rudd.... now to centre * ALP Commie : Nothing wrong with Rudd's chin. Remember he is a young man! * SBS Commie (MA) : maybe hes lieing and his chin is growing! * Guest_1703 : guys , hows the worm doing * Harriet Vane : He's trying to paste shredded documents back together, john * SG : Croaks: he had to go up a weight division to take on Joe HOckey, picked up a few chins on the new diet * Guest_4978 : gst! * Amanda : say NON CORE PROMISE says say it say it kevin * gnpaaron : where's bolt??? * ABC Commie : Chin implant. * Tim : correct - troops was a bit issue * john ryan : Wheres Piers * Guest_4978 : non-core * Laurie Croaks : what is going on with the Rudd chin? * casey : yeah why * gnpaaron : awesome * gnpaaron : 'a very minor debating point' * Amanda : minor debating point indeed * Tim : HELL YEH KEV! * fiztig : well done kev * Laurie Croaks : look at the worm * Rob : Good point Kev. * casey : Rudd cld sing "im a little teapot" and the worm would shoot up * Guest_1978 : wodalodapooftash ite * ABC Commie : AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI!!! * pointy : nice ....again ... 11 years of doing nothing * Laurie Croaks : Rudd fakes sincerity so well * Guest_4978 : diplomatic protocol fool * Harriet Vane : Clinton would have been in the mood * Amanda : waste * gnpaaron : leadership for (shouting) AUSTRALIA * Amanda : who the FUG decided that would be JH's question to KR?????????????? ? A wate! * SG : I thought JH was the most powerful man in the world... who is this Bush chap? * SBS Commie (MA) : rudd is playing this well not too smug * Tim : FAIL! * ABC Commie : YES! * gnpaaron : well handled * Tim : dont be too smarmy * ABC Commie : Not in the mood! * Laurie Croaks : my redundancy payment is at risk?! WTF?! those private equity ppl are so greedy! * JWH : Rudd touching him up * SBS Commie (MA) : Gore is the prez the real prez of 2000 so rudd did! * pointy : ooooh nice * Tim : nice one K-Rudd. get him! * Harriet Vane : Because GWB is going to be irrelevant next year * casey : Well done ruddie * Guest_3760 : clean bowled! * ABC Commie : Because he cleared it all with Gore! * Amanda : jesus. howard WASTES his question * Laurie Croaks : Rupert Murdoch is the most powerful man in the world * Rob : Bad move JH * Tim : Howard DIDNT ANSWER THE QUESTION * Laurie Croaks : workchoices is so boring, we're all contractors now * Harriet Vane : You need to mix it up to keep people interested in your message * pointy : he didn't answer it * Harriet Vane : I think IR is in danger of being done to death * pointy : dive dive dive * fiztig : worm going neg * SBS Commie (MA) : my internet is capped, i went over my limit, !!! * Tim : Yes, Howard is soooooo committed to reconciliation! WTF? * Laurie Croaks : I'm being frozen out of this chat room more than the discussions of my salary with the new management at 9 * lauredhel : IR probably a good choice, though? * Amanda : my connection is solid (fo iinet!) * Harriet Vane : Ugh more IR * JWH : come in sucker? * SBS Commie (MA) : freezes ;( * SBS Commie (MA) : nope me too Rob * ABC Commie : THUNDERDOME!!! * pointy : 1 on 1 ... * ALP Commie : Constructing the bridge?? * lauredhel : respect talk is good, very shaky ground having voted for the intervention, but racist worm apparently likes that * gnpaaron : OOOOHHHH * fiztig : here we go * ABC Commie : Worm broken through top of scale * JWH : off the charts * SBS Commie (MA) : yep same Amanda * Rob : Anyone but me getting drop out? * fiztig : worm off the scale * SBS Commie (MA) : Rudd is married sorry Worm * Amanda : i liked his respect talk * JWH : Rudd's killing him * fiztig : worm is very pos * SBS Commie (MA) : nice one * ABC Commie : WORM LOVE * lauredhel : worm? * Amanda : wowera go kevin! * JWH : Howard will be proclaimed the winner tomorrow! * ALP Commie : Say sorry Kev and get those deficits going * Guest_2579 : Will the Libs review the worm's message? * pointy : aspirational reconciliation? * Laurie Croaks : worm love JoHo's racial views, hates his team * Guest_3760 : 20 years of failure, huh. * Mr Mixa : Send the army in to deal with the union bosses * lauredhel : inspired in that it lodged in his right main bronchus and he can't hack it up * Guest_4978 : worm hates the team.. * Rob : Interesting worm here. * Amanda : he ruined it by mentioning hockey and turnbull * fiztig : hmmm... although when he talks about the team the worm goes down * SBS Commie (MA) : Laurie Croaks well said * Laurie Croaks : worm does down at mention of malcolm T * JWH : obviously a few rednecks in the 9 studios * Harriet Vane : Inspired in that he came up with it in the middle of the night * Achenar : Argh get that worm down * fiztig : worm very positive * Harriet Vane : No using it against them * Harriet Vane : Guilt and blame is only for the government to wield, damn it * lauredhel : "inspired" gag me * SBS Commie (MA) : man is he a dick or what, Mr Howard is not very intelligent * Laurie Croaks : johnny is right on this, saying sorry is stupid, especially if you hate 'em still * Rob : Yeah the worm likes him for once. * ABC Commie : Oh wait, that's your constituency... * ALP Commie : More sit down money you bastard whiteys!!!!!! * Achenar : Predicted Rudd question to Howard: "Will you debate me on dd/mm?" * gnpaaron : 1996 grudge match style * john ryan : He a small time lawyer * gnpaaron : i want to see a don watson v. john howard debate * Minotaur : Erm, would appear Worm doesn't want to say sorry either ... * ABC Commie : It's offensive to RACIST australians, johnny * JWH : Howard is gutless * SBS Commie (MA) : no he didnt he is sorry that we are not sorry * fiztig : ugh, worm likes this response * Guest_4978 : nope * gnpaaron : here's howard at his stupidest * lauredhel : he's still being a fucking weasel * Laurie Croaks : say sorry to me Johnny, I've lost 50 kilos in 52 weeks * Politikal : Howard said sorry!!! * Harriet Vane : Also, writing a preamble 100 years later isn't really a preamble * lauredhel : did he just say "I'm sorry"? * ABC Commie : DID HE JUST APOLOGIZE??? * Minotaur : SAY SORRY DAMN YOU * TotallyAwesome : Did he just apologise? Haha * JWH : Aboriginal reconciliation * Guest_4978 : last time the debate winner actually went on to win the election was... 1996 * Achenar : hehe yes well handled * High Five : lol Laurie * ABC Commie : Oh. The bombe. * Amanda : reconciliatioin! * JWH : here we go * TotallyAwesome : HarrietVane, me too. Does this country bloody care about social issues at all? * Harriet Vane : A fair go is more than just $$ * fiztig : the ALP need to launch a substantial policy tomorrow to build on this * Laurie Croaks : not sure about Rudd's chin, I of course have so many that I can afford to be fussy * ALP Commie : Good evasion Kev!!!!! Keep that rhetoric coming. * Harriet Vane : I'm a bit pissed about the lack of social policy discussion * TotallyAwesome : [smiley] [smiley] [smiley] [smiley] [smiley] :S * Supun : why cant the politicians see what the worms doing, it would make this much more interesting * TotallyAwesome : Wow, there are faces here [smiley] * kat : rudd is just positive......he offers a vision...while hjopwrd offers negatovity and fear * Laurie Croaks : or a tory running dog * JWH : Rudd's on fire * TotallyAwesome : Kevin Rudd is awesome! Australia needs him! [smiley] * Laurie Croaks : was a tory methinks * Guest_4978 : the UN! aaiiieee, it burns!! * SBS Commie (MA) : nope, McClellands statement was fine * Amanda : good! * pointy : tough question .. well handled * Laurie Croaks : best question of the night tho, he's quite pesky for an ABC journaliste * gnpaaron : well handled * fiztig : worm likes this response from rudd * Rob : He is doing well. * SBS Commie (MA) : yeh dont hang yourself Mr Rudd * Harriet Vane : I don't see what the problem was with McClelland's statement myself * Achenar : Oooh .. .death penalty... dangerous... be careful Rudd * Laurie Croaks : Avon yes I stand corrected * SBS Commie (MA) : and his is also a fashion conservative * Guest_2423 : Alexander Downer will cry * Achenar : Worm giving modest approval * Achenar : Rudd dealing with it well * fiztig : Laurie - Avon - she could buy the company with the amount of makeup she slathers on * Harriet Vane : Laurie Croaks, she'll try and figure out the intarwebs * pointy : Drag queen Coonan * JWH : shamaham's in his toilet with the tissues * ALP Commie : Remember he's an economic conservative * lauredhel : his voice got deeper on the tough question * Supun : ask the same of howard * pointy : oooohhh * ABC Commie : OOOh. Good question. * Supun : toughestb question of the night * Laurie Croaks : what will Helen Coonan do when she's no longer a Minister? Amway I'm thinking * Achenar : tough one for Rudd * john ryan : Is Shamahan drunk or even there * gnpaaron : yeah the iraquis really want us to stay there * fiztig : me-too question * SBS Commie (MA) : progress i word howard knows the meaning off? * Laurie Croaks : let's cut and run on those Iraqis, that'll show 'em * pointy : making progress ... LOL pull the other one * Guest_4978 : Howard wants Rudd to clean up his mess. * SBS Commie (MA) : haha RSPCA, nice one * casey : of course * gnpaaron : mark is drunk * ABC Commie : Martial Interruptus! * Mr Mixa : From the 60 minutes website - "It will be followed immediately by an analysis of the debate and the exclusive verdict of NineÕs ÒWormÓ Ð the computer-generat ed verdict of 100 uncommitted voters who will judge the debate live in-studio at Nine." * Laurie Croaks : is Mark Latham watching do we think? * Harriet Vane : With a 24 Nov election, that'd be impressive! * ABC Commie : Oooh! He's pulling out! * Guest_2423 : John Howard is soo booring, AHHHHHH * casey : Will someone call the RSPCA abut that poor worm * gnpaaron : come on, someone say it... troops home by christmas!! * pointy : an evolving vommittment ... LOL * blacklight : throw another shrimp on the barbie * Guest_4978 : you'd know hyprocrisy * SBS Commie (MA) : maybe howard is partying like its 1959 * Laurie Croaks : tad - slipped into 80s speak ouch * Minotaur : I know Americans who didn't even know we were in WWII, let alone Iraq. * SBS Commie (MA) : FAIR DINKCUM * Laurie Croaks : fair dinkum! more 50s talk * Harriet Vane : "Who's Bob? Is he bi?" * Laurie Croaks : two bob each way - 50s talk yay * SBS Commie (MA) : yeh, gnpaaron, most countries besides the states have pretty small numbers * gnpaaron : the former communist state of georgia had more troops than we did back in may * Achenar : lol * pointy : me too * Laurie Croaks : am still lovin' Lil JoHo's tie * Guest_4978 : me too! * casey : Im sick f howard's me tooism * gnpaaron : everyone loves to pretend we have an actually sizeable force in iraq * Laurie Croaks : Heavy Kevvie loved in Langley, he will no wrong them * fiztig : no health and education questions yet - are we going to get any? * gnpaaron : yeah * ABC Commie : The terrorists will fight each other. * SBS Commie (MA) : COMMIE FORCE? * casey : ive already indicated this to the govt Of US go ruddie, * Harriet Vane : ALP...because 1500 was making a huge difference lol * Guest_4978 : worm wants out of Iraq * ALP Commie : Who'll fight the terrorists if the combat force is removed???? * Achenar : Rudd did well to mention Mick Keelty's comments and subsequent gagging by the govt * fairfaxer : the worms gone off the graph * Minotaur : `Ask each other questions' ??? Yowza! * Harriet Vane : Frankly, I don't think people really care too much about national security * Achenar : National Security no longer owned by govt? * ABC Commie : The Worm likes the TRUTH * gnpaaron : is there a worm rss feed or something * SBS Commie (MA) : Weapons of Mass Doodles? SBS TONIGHT! * lauredhel : interesting * pointy : peak worm * Supun : worm is in heaven * lauredhel : worm is up is it? * pointy : where's the worm gone ... so high LOL * Harriet Vane : Don't use acronyms, Kevin. WMD has less impact. * Achenar : Go steady Rudd you can address this tough point * casey : Hes such a bastard. Howard wants to kill that worm * fiztig : I can't believe how much speaking time Howard has been allowed to have * gnpaaron : terrorism: real but ABSOLUTELY NOT AFFECTING OUR FOREIGN POLICY NO SIR * Laurie Croaks : Tim Fischer takes A-rab money all the time * ALP Commie : Moderator hammering Howard again. * SBS Commie (MA) : i heard terrorist hate how we use toilet paper! * ABC Commie : BECAUSE THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS IN IRAQ UNTIL YOU WENT IN THERE!!! * Laurie Croaks : they hate Tim Fischer - not * Harriet Vane : I hate his vision of our way of life too * Supun : THEY HATE OUR WAY OF LIFE * Guest_2423 : God, Howard wants this debate to be soo boring * JWH : Terrorists hate our freedoms! * Laurie Croaks : they hate us and they hat worms * Guest_1700 : oh crap * Robert : This is really crap: ÇlinkÈ * fiztig : oh my god * gnpaaron : go over to iraq and have a look around and tell me it's getting any safer * pointy : enough already from Howard ... next!!!! * SBS Commie (MA) : stop being free you pricks! * Laurie Croaks : the worm looked v sharp * Amanda : the people doing the worm have heard of Baker/Hamilton? * Guest_2423 : I love the worm * Guest_4336 : nice hat worm * ALP Commie : Never mind how much better he is at debating all channel nine will report on is the worm. * SBS Commie (MA) : Harriet, nice one, heh * pointy : the worm in a Top Hat * silk : What was that??? * ABC Commie : Macas! In Iraq!!! * casey : is howard fitting * fiztig : What was that weird twitch??? * Laurie Croaks : there's wormie * kat : yeah liek they r pursuing norway * casey : oh my god * SBS Commie (MA) : FREE SOCIETY, like what we have, ohh we dont MR howard, no gay marriage,? * gnpaaron : he's shit scared shaking like a leaf * Laurie Croaks : they hate everyone * Harriet Vane : So if we stop being free, they won't hate us! * High Five : he is picking up after what i think was a weak start for him * ABC Commie : TEH HATE FREEEDUM * gnpaaron : no he's not * Laurie Croaks : he's a good debater in a technical sense, Johnny is * fiztig : Uhllman looks like he was gesturing to Spears for him to stop Howard rabbiting on * JWH : Howard wedging Pakis! * lauredhel : I don't know that talk time does people any favours in these debates * Guest_2423 : Is he playing the race card?? HAHA * Harriet Vane : In that we'll lock up random people to stop teh terrarists * fiztig : Howard has had so much talk time * Guest_4978 : what was the question? * Harriet Vane : The foreign policy won't be, but the domestic policy will * Guest_2423 : Jeez those interviewers are fairly biased * gnpaaron : the bleeding irony in saying that terrorism has not influenced australian foreign policy * Minotaur : *this is a recording* * Laurie Croaks : look at wormie, they love him * Supun : dirty tactivs * SBS Commie (MA) : this is how you government scare the shit out of people, nice one * casey : i will never surrender is about right * Supun : and kevin would? * lauredhel : will wait and see then. (I missed the first 15 minutes, too). * High Five : i guess im hoping people are smarter then represented by tv worm * Laurie Croaks : Robert McClelland be very concerned for the civil rights of the murderers - shrewd move that * ABC Commie : He's gonna mention the capital punishment cock up * lauredhel : I thought it was sixty. Ninety? ok * silk : so he hasnt actually answered the question * fiztig : oh geez... he didn't actually invoke Bali did he * SBS Commie (MA) : FEAR M#THERFU&KERS * Minotaur : Oh, here comes terrorism ... * Harriet Vane : Increased in his head * casey : this will be interesting * Guest_2423 : High Five, no, it's a vote winner since the majority believe in it. * JWH : Bali! * silk : lauredhel, isnt this a 90 minute debate? * lauredhel : TERRAHISM * ABC Commie : Here it comes. * High Five : Pandering to climate change is a vote loser dude.. * fiztig : nothing yet laurel - and only 30 mins to go * Laurie Croaks : I feel left out * gnpaaron : SENDING MEMOS THAT NOBODY READS HURRRR * Laurie Croaks : what about more discussion about whales * Harriet Vane : I always have the vague feeling Howard feels left out without having a terrorist attack here. The UK got one. The US got one. * lauredhel : */me is sick of the world* * SBS Commie (MA) : sorry FRED! * Guest_2423 : God, Howard is boring * ABC Commie : CLEAR! BZZZZZZZ! * lauredhel : So - nothing at all? Aboriginal people, immigration, asylum seekers, disability? and not evern health and education? * JWH : Howard's worm is flatter than Hockey's cushion * Laurie Croaks : quiet achiever * SBS Commie (MA) : Jack Thompson for PREZ, no not really * gnpaaron : howard: I AM AN IMPORTANT WORLD FIGURE HONK HONK HONK * Supun : get the defribilator STAT * kat : teh worm is so low * Guest_4336 : STAT! * ABC Commie : And they won't like howard. * Guest_4978 : where? the US? * Laurie Croaks : pulsating it be * Supun : flatlining * SBS Commie (MA) : no Mr Croaks she would have underpaid! * ABC Commie : The US government will change hands in 13 months * casey : if only howard was into drugs * fiztig : keep talking about bush - it works so well for you Gramps * Laurie Croaks : gee worm is red and pulsign * silk : Did someone attach an anvil to the worm? * gnpaaron : get the man some ventalin, he's out of control * Harriet Vane : I think Iraq isn't really that big an issue. We don't have a significant commitment if we're honest. * Supun : thats the lowest its been * High Five : Also, is it just me but howard seems very unsure of himself.. * pointy : dive dive dive * fiztig : worm is tanking * Laurie Croaks : yeh Iraq is a huge issue... not * gnpaaron : awesome * Minotaur : Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq ... hello??? * Laurie Croaks : Therese Rein has clearly paid off the worm * Guest_2423 : Nuclear mentioned, FINALLY! * High Five : yea the worm doesnt like libs historically speaking * SBS Commie (MA) : there must be a smell in the hall of howard slowing pooing his pants * ABC Commie : OH YEAH * casey : KFC for the worm! * fiztig : you're on lettuce leaves laurie * Frank Calabrese : apparently according to the Age - THe Nein feed was cut twice cos of the worm -0 that's why they're rebroadcasting Sky * Minotaur : Boxers or briefs? * gnpaaron : vote jacks * pointy : please move onto some other topic besides climate * Rob : You know, I don't htink this is going to work for Kev. He's talking as if he's been the PM for the past 11 years. He's winning the debagte, but so did Latham. * Laurie Croaks : I'd like the worm to resolve the big question for me this evening: Hungry Jacks or Maccas * ABC Commie : SLAM * Amanda : Minotaur, my old comrade, I am not forgetting the worm hearted Latham. All the more reason to enjoy the giggles while they last! * SBS Commie (MA) : green colored car is howards green car idea! * John Doe : i swear the worm is indicating the bullshit coming out of krudds' mouth * fiztig : worm is off the scale * ALP Commie : If they worm is right Labor would have won the last 5 elections * pointy : enough already with Climate crap * ABC Commie : Damn straight! SOLAR!!! * Harriet Vane : lauredhel, don't be silly. We only care about $$ here in AU. * Guest_2423 : Lauredhel, no, this country thinks we live in an economy rather than a society * Laurie Croaks : I look hot in that panel * casey : not really * gnp "Lenin" aaro : what commies??? * Minotaur : Don't forget the worm also hearted Latham ... * SBS Commie (MA) : ok -1 for high five! * Amanda : good point about china, nods to his speakee the lingo without bragging * Harriet Vane : Yeah these aren't sexy issues. Only political tragics and journos care about tax and intricate economic discussions. * ABC Commie : GREEN CAR!!! * lauredhel : have any social justice issues been touched on at all? * Laurie Croaks : Rudd has so won this election if the worm is right * High Five : doh! *switching channel* * SBS Commie (MA) : welcome to this commie infested paradise! * fiztig : high five - worm is on channel 9 * High Five : I blame IR reform... * Guest_2423 : What about education and health? We spent bloody 50 minutes speaking about tax :\ * casey : I know he's like viagra fr the worm * High Five : Firstly, sucks i dont have digital tv so no worm for me [smiley] * Laurie Croaks : it's all the developed world's fault, yeh Kev, not those Malaysians chainsawing forests * SG : Is this whole policy statement JH blaming everyone else? * Harriet Vane : Hi High Five * SBS Commie (MA) : h5 HI * ABC Commie : Rudd sticks blame on JH. * ALP Commie : Worm gets hard before Kev utters a word? Amazing!! * High Five : Hi all * fiztig : HAHAHA * Laurie Croaks : worm loves Jo-Ho on climate change, how odd, how strangely satisfying, like a hot dog with extra cheese * SBS Commie (MA) : I AM THE LAW!!! * ABC Commie : About 2% * lauredhel : what percentage of USAns can name the Aussie PM? * Harriet Vane : gnpaaron, my Yank spouse always laughs at Howard's 'we'll tell Bush...' * SBS Commie (MA) : heres the fake tough guy act, U.S DO THIS I TELL YOU SO * SG : worm replays... sounds naughty * gnpaaron : jesus, as if the americans give a shit what Australia thinks... * Minotaur : Yup, the US'll be our climate change deputy sheriff * fiztig : oh yeah, howard will push bush - the lame duck pres * ABC Commie : Oh yeah, Australia pushes the US around. Riiiiiiiigh, mate. * Laurie Croaks : this site is about as reliable as my bowels after I started taking diet pills * Robert : The post-game analysis had worm replays last time. * casey : that's a rather phallic looking worm * SBS Commie (MA) : hah they laughed at him * Minotaur : Bush just dropped his nachos ... [smiley] * fiztig : the president will only be there for 12 more months you moron * Supun : apec deops the worm * Supun : keeps talking, doesn't look good * pointy : wtf is he proposing? * kat : who cares about past 2011 * arleeshr : A FUND!!! * Harriet Vane : I think the target group is people who think ACA is news * ABC Commie : HERE IT COMES * Achenar : Rob, presumably highlights after the live debate will include worm replays? * Laurie Croaks : I'm down with Lil Johnny's tie, very nice shade of blue, can't remember which number derwent pencil it would be * fiztig : howard should shorten his answers - the longer he talks the more the worm is neutral or negative * Achenar : I would have thought Ch 9 would favour libs if anyone? * ABC Commie : They love that he knows it, but not that he'll do anything about it. * Rob : Can we replay the worm at some stage? * arleeshr : he doesn't say much * Minotaur : They like the topic but not what he says about it? * Achenar : Odd... positive for Howard ? ah.. there we go... much better * SBS Commie (MA) : SBS STRIP DEBATE COMING UP NEXT @ 12:30pm join us * pointy : dive dive dive * Guest_2579 : would Ch 9 select inappropriateley ? * Laurie Croaks : the worm loves Howard on climate change * ABC Commie : Worm loves Howard owning up to anthropogenic warming * Guest_3760 : lol.. Blair's commenters are a riot... * Supun : or the other way around * arleeshr : mankind * Minotaur : Hmm this is interesting ... * Supun : howard jumps up for worm * fiztig : positive start for howard * Guest_4978 : green haired swinging voters? * ALP Commie : Sign Kyoto kev!!! * Politikal : swinging voters my foot * Laurie Croaks : climate change is so hot right now * Rob : What aoubt Iraq???? * arleeshr : ok thx * Amanda : audience in the hall, that is. worm peeps different, chosen by ( * Harriet Vane : Or undecided voters * Harriet Vane : Channel 9 is swinging voters * Guest_4978 : worm is scared of greenhouse effect, of terrorists? * SG : excellllleeeennn tttt!!! * Harriet Vane : The audience in the hall is entirely partisan * Minotaur : The studio audience is 50-50 Labor/Liberal. Who knows what point that serves * arleeshr : ch9 * Amanda : audience half-half chosen by labor and liberal * Harriet Vane : Audience of what, arleeshr? * Politikal : haha good question * arleeshr : yeh but who is in the audience? * Amanda : fug kelly again * Harriet Vane : It's hard to make climate change sexy * ALP Commie : Tim Flannery jacking off up the back of the Great Hall * Minotaur : Site definitely struggling .... * ABC Commie : KRudd should be thrilling, not quoting CO2 levels * fiztig : worm is up top again * casey : nah up it goes * kat : yes stutter but still gerat for the past 50 minutes * Harriet Vane : Par for the course to stuff up a few times. * Amanda : rhetoricazl question from k-rud. heh. * Supun : worms gone down * Achenar : I think this site is struggling? * Robert : According to Smage, "The channel will have 90 "uncommitted" voters watching the debate from Nine's Sydney studio " * Supun : bit of a stutter from rudd * fiztig : bit of a stumble there * Guest_4978 : worm has never been below halfway for Rudd, for Howard.. not so much * Harriet Vane : We know Howard things drugs are evil, hence hating the worm. * Achenar : Channel 9 studio audeince arlesshr * arleeshr : do we know who is at the worm helm? * ABC Commie : the Worm takes an eccie every time KRudd comes one * NotAppy@EdenMonara : Worm confirms ALP OWNS anti-WorkChoices and environment * Timmeh Gartrelle : because climate change is so gay * casey : How can it be that worm just lerves him soo * arleeshr : "peter" * John Winston : Hartcher's been on the turps! * Timmeh Gartrelle : yawn global warming * pointy : haha Ch9 cutting out Sky logos * SG : when he said modelling I thought .... oo, more liberals in fishnets. damn! * ABC Commie : And now comes the Kyoto promise from JH. * Minotaur : Global warming ... *listens* * SBS Commie (MA) : JOE HOCKEY!!!! * Timmeh Gartrelle : nice suit hartcher * Guest_4978 : short'n sweet compared to Howard * silk : Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar? * arleeshr : lol pies * Amanda : my mate joe: represent for the sunrise family, kev! * Timmeh Gartrelle : Joe Hockey as a model - I don't think so * SBS Commie (MA) : WHo ate all the pIES HOCKEY!!!!!!! * ABC Commie : There goes North Sydney. * pointy : nice points from Rudd * ABC Commie : Joe!!! * SBS Commie (MA) : its not rudd but ruddinator!! the union BOSS * Timmeh Gartrelle : Go you you good thing wormie * Minotaur : Yew bewty! * Guest_4978 : Rudd needs to maintain, act like a future PM * casey : that worm's in love with rudd, doesnt matter what he says * Timmeh Gartrelle : That worm is doin' the business, I paid him off * fiztig : worm off to the top of the scale * John Winston : Rudd's mudering him * arleeshr : you beauty * Achenar : Yeah, Rudd is great... relaxed enough to joke and smile (can howard even physically smile naturally?) * SBS Commie (MA) : i knows this is naughty but damn rudd has a small mouth * ABC Commie : Worm love * arleeshr : Rudd looks really flaccid. Tired. * pointy : lol ... 3 words from Rudd and the worm goes up .... * Harriet Vane : hehe * Politikal : Rudd's a cheeky little brat * Guest_4978 : whoops! * casey : ruddie needs to wipe his upper lip * SBS Commie (MA) : IM SO SORRY ITS ALL MY FAULT AND LES MURRAY * fiztig : heheehehe * ABC Commie : HA * pointy : the worms asleep in the middle * arleeshr : wow, the direct appeal... he is scared * Frank Calabrese : this is amazing * Harriet Vane : SBS: The porn channel that is ruining teh Aboriginal kids. * ALP Commie : Jeez I'd love to nail Julia Gillard * Rob : scared, even * SG : i.e. they have to accept JH will always lie * ABC Commie : Oh, yeah, compare yourself to the US, JH * SG : ooo people will have to understand the nature of the political debate * Guest_3760 : lol @ fiztig.... worm trying to get Judd in PSD. * John Winston : Howard=Not drowning waving * silk : Is his belief binding on his succsessor? * Supun : is that negative because he's talking about IR or because he's saying he doesnt want to take it any further * Rob : Remember JH is deaf - that's why he looks a bit sacred when he's asked questions. * SBS Commie (MA) : EU people watch SBS DUDE * Guest_4978 : fought hard with control of both houses.. pfft * kat : teh wikrm needs resuycccitation * fiztig : slight improvement with him saying there is no need to go further * Guest_3760 : budget cuts mean ABC has no worm * SBS Commie (MA) : IR is howards love child * fiztig : worm - tanking * ALP Commie : What ever happened to embaracing European socialism? * Achenar : hehe I like how Howard looks totally shit-scared whenever a question's being asked * SBS Commie (MA) : Yep, ABC commie. * arleeshr : DEPORT YOURSELF * Minotaur : This `new ALP/old ALP' line is interesting ... praps = sure, love Hawke, just don't love Rudd. * Robert : Howard lauding the old Labor Party, but criticising Rudd for "turning back the clock"? * kat : shifty looking hword........eye s ging sideways * ABC Commie : Laurie has a dagger. And he just used it. * Guest_4978 : core/non-core? * Supun : fewer strikes since 1913? thats because you've made it practically impossible to strike without being fired * cityblue : oh boy these journos are going for the throat * Rob : This union stuff is crap. * ABC Commie : Full employment at crap wages. * Guest_4978 : wtf? * Harriet Vane : Non issue * fiztig : worm is ambivalent * Harriet Vane : We effectively have full employment * Politikal : The worm is rigged somthing nasty, it's blatantly obvious * arleeshr : so shiny * ABC Commie : Yep * Amanda : is that the first mention of the Nationals? * KieranBennett : General evidence... * KieranBennett : HAHAHAHAHA! * fiztig : worm is about centre now * arleeshr : he should be * casey : Howard is spooked * SBS Commie (MA) : i think its a core LIE * ALP Commie : One question I want to know is Has Laurie Oakes ever paid for a meal? * silk : just * Minotaur : To reiterate: WORM HATES WORKCHOICES * Guest_4978 : worm come back! * fiztig : worm is in negative * kat : teh worm doesnt liekt his * ABC Commie : Is that a core promise or a non-core promise? * Guest_4336 : stray bogon moth * arleeshr : worm disappeared * Ptobias : If Howard wants balance, how about some more women, people with dark skin and gays in the Liberal Party? * Guest_4978 : its Nine's coverage with the stupid logos! * John Winston : worm nosedives * Minotaur : Supun - I've only just got back on the website after half an hours' reloading so yah * SBS Commie (MA) : Oakes eats worms for breakfast so its just staying away from him * Supun : negative to the max! * ABC Commie : And here's where JH loses the election. * Guest_3760 : oakes ate the worm! * pointy : nice question Toad ... WC2 * Robert : Nice followup question, Penfold. * fiztig : no worm while questions are asked * fiztig : yay! Minchin comment!!! * pointy : ooooh.... Workchoices .... * silk : Yes * ALP Commie : What's the worm doing while Oakes is speaking? * Minotaur : They should worm the journos too * ABC Commie : MUAHAHAH. The never-ending question. * kat : go laurie...workcho ices 2 * Supun : is the website going down? * Frank Calabrese : Oakes mentioning IR * Guest_4978 : worm ambivalent * fiztig : positive jump with 'balance' * ABC Commie : Worm doesn't like the slams. * Guest_3760 : howard taking ages to get to his point * john ryan : remember Rupets nuteral he told us so * SBS Commie (MA) : i heard unions are made of free minded people who get together to better things! OMG * Rob : JH too argumentativew and strident. * Achenar : It'll go negative soon enough [smiley] * fiztig : worm is in positive * pointy : wtf Howard lauding the Hawke govt * arleeshr : Oh wow, Barry freakin' Cohen is NOT a Liberal role model * lauredhel : voice break, he's about to sob again * kat : howrds intenation si not quite right tronight * lauredhel : heel bounce and fist, heel bounce and fist * Guest_3760 : Costello was flicking spitbombs at Kevni * Guest_4978 : worm loooves Hawke * ALP Commie : How about the moderator keep his remarks to himself! * ABC Commie : MOST OF THEM, JH * SBS Commie (MA) : *without * fiztig : did Costello make a comment?? * Amanda : "sclerotic" -- is that on the rudd bingo card? * SG : oo he's taking on the union issue! * SBS Commie (MA) : this is like a rap battle with the rap or rappers, but someone is getting a beat down * pointy : ooohhh .... nice HAwkie ref * arleeshr : SCLEROTIC * Harriet Vane : I'm off to peg out the washing...bbiab! * Rob : Killer point from Kev re Hawke. * fiztig : good Kev! defending the unions. * arleeshr : worm didn't like the footnote * ABC Commie : DEFEND THOSE UNIONS, KEVIN!!! * Harriet Vane : When he gives prepared stuff it sounds like a Grade 8 debater. * SBS Commie (MA) : 67,000! * SBS Commie (MA) : yeh howard bowls like a dead person * Harriet Vane : Rudd is sounding more natural now * Achenar : Howard looking increasingly uncomfortable... he must know it's not going well * SBS Commie (MA) : i think someone needs a toilet break * Harriet Vane : Interest groups including wacky Christians * ABC Commie : Howard can't throw a ball. Rudd would take him out. * fiztig : worm going positive * SBS Commie (MA) : thats was great * Harriet Vane : I'd pay to see that * Guest_3760 : over/under on Howard running across the podium and swinging at Kruddy? * Achenar : Howard came out of that looking crazed * Robert : Oooh, angry! * ALP Commie : Rudd was wrong, quick move on!! * Achenar : Yes * arleeshr : teh unions spending teh dollahs * Guest_4978 : worm and Rudd smashed him * SG : oooh where is the worm!? * Robert : Waa waa, the OECD is picking on me. [smiley] * Achenar : lol fight * pointy : LOL ... owned * John Winston : Rudd touching him up * kat : ooh cat fight * Harriet Vane : Yelly time not going to go down well * SBS Commie (MA) : hah * arleeshr : oecd hahahah * ABC Commie : DOUBLE SMACK! * Harriet Vane : I love the generation of free degrees harping on about HECS * fiztig : negative worm * Ptobias : 70% of the OECD are union officials! * SBS Commie (MA) : OHH MY GO RUDD, this is better than i thought * arleeshr : bickering * pointy : you've been there 11 years ... LOL * Amanda : ta Harriet. gin and tonic kicking in. j-ho going postal! * ABC Commie : SMACK! * SG : smack! * ALP Commie : Screw those bastards earning over $180K they pay little tax. * lauredhel : lost and broken * fiztig : Howard is doing his own reply without being allowed by Spears * Guest_3760 : wow, some Tblair commentors getting a little trembly over there... * John Winston : Howard looks lost * SBS Commie (MA) : oohh RUDD bringing the smack talk * lauredhel : elective surgery! here we go * Harriet Vane : My reply to Amanda was he said 'Mr Howard's minister' ie Julie Bishop * Robert : Still ticking over fine for me. * Guest_3760 : wow, some Tblair commentors getting a little trembly over there... * Harriet Vane : Hmm, taking a long time for messages to appear * lauredhel : another LP page failed to load as the chatroom cut out * ABC Commie : yeah, it seems to be cutting out. had to reload a few times. * Amanda : did he just call Howard "she"? * arleeshr : chatroom keeps cutting out for some reason? * SBS Commie (MA) : his wasted * Guest_4336 : WIN TV just reduced viewing area and added The great debate and live logos AAARRRRGGGHH! * Amanda : zipped up mentioning Howard's record and putting honesty on the table * SBS Commie (MA) : the worm has raided the howards wine stocks * cityblue : kelly ate his wheeties this morning * fiztig : Howard is doing the Republican strategy of taking a weakness/opponen t strength (IR) and trying to make it his own strength - he's just doing it very badly * Robert : How did the worm like that attack on Howard's treasurer record? * lauredhel : rudd's gone negative, is the worm bad on that too? * arleeshr : hah cut to howard looking pissed off * Guest_3760 : worm hardly moves during howards reply there.... people were waiting for him to actually say "something" * Harriet Vane : DINKs get no political love! * Red Peter : This is why Rudd shouldn't have aped the tax cuts * pointy : 22% again ..[smiley] * Harriet Vane : I'm tired of the overuse of the word 'family' * SBS Commie (MA) : someone has cotton mouth * fairfaxer : howards gonna lose it * ABC Commie : he'd have to have a heart to have a coronary * kat : is hword goingt o ahve a coronary ro what??? * pointy : i think the shoulder twitch might be starting * lauredhel : "to which you have alluded to" * Supun : why is he talking about IR, it was a question about tax? * SBS Commie (MA) : SAY IT * cityblue : oh John, don;t mention Industrial Relations * arleeshr : shit * John Winston : workchoices?? * Guest_4655 : Kelly had a message from Murdoch * fiztig : Grumpy Gramps looks like he's going to start sweating soon * ABC Commie : OMG he's talking IR * Harriet Vane : So inflation is bad, unless it's house prices. Which is good. * Robert : Damn straight, Amanda. I end up shouting at the TV or going to make a cup of coffee... * pointy : somebody better powder howards head ... i'm getting blinded * Supun : kelly's actually asked a hard question of howard * John Winston : kelly showing some spine * silk : lol * Amanda : god paul kelly. his segment on Insiders is surely the least useful seven minutes on TV every week, including Quizmania * arleeshr : paul kelly also shiny head * SBS Commie (MA) : watch out kiddies, this might get dirty, might see a reach around from paul kelly * Frank Calabrese : aka lapel mikes * kat : tough question form p kelly * cityblue : nah its about interest rates * Harriet Vane : Does anyone really think the government has a whole lot to do with interest rates? Surely it's international economic conditions. * blacklight : royal commision? * Frank Calabrese : or use lavier mikes * fiztig : oh goody - more tax * cityblue : lesson #1234 of debates - get better microphones * silk : remember AWB * Achenar : Baseball bats in the audience? * Harriet Vane : The principle, but not the practice * Guest_4978 : accountability, the f***? * silk : remember Children overboard * Amanda : pm accountabilility . as the young folk say : ROFLMAO * ABC Commie : No, JH, you call a Royal Commission to BURY THE FACTS! * pointy : PM responsibility ...lol * arleeshr : look at the broken record * Guest_4336 : Microphone whack!! * kat : the worm really hates howrd * Hank Reardon : Independant moderator??? * fiztig : hahahaha... whacking the podium! * John Winston : Howard apology? * silk : fucking liar * Supun : worms gone negative * lauredhel : whack * blacklight : mr speaker- Johns pet name for Janette... * pointy : Who do you trust to keep wages lower * Guest_4978 : apologise!!1!! * ABC Commie : MUAHAHAH * fiztig : oooooooooooo... nasty question! * arleeshr : APOLOGISE TO EVERYONE!!! * SBS Commie (MA) : Howard is playing the babbeling granddad * silk : lauredhel: pretty neutral * kat : hmm peopel hate higher wages * John Winston : mr speaker * lauredhel : how's the worm on the 17% issue? * Harriet Vane : 22 > 17. End of story. * silk : that 22% was never on home loans as they were capped * cityblue : oh 17 percent - I am surprised it took this long * Frank Calabrese : here we go - 17% * blacklight : Mr Speaker? * arleeshr : shiny head * ABC Commie : Yes, it's Howard's 22%!!! * pointy : zzzzzzzz * kat : worm is dyinmg for howrd is again * lauredhel : Now he's sounding snarky-in-a-bad- way agin * Rob : Howard seems to think he is in Parliament, not on a TV debate. * kat : im not erally mlsitening to him * Solomon : Push worming? * lauredhel : and he's gone for the heel bounce, not good * silk : now there was an opportunity for 'commrades' * Harriet Vane : "Everyone knows * cityblue : I thought Howard started out strong, but I now realise it was desperation I was hearing in his voice * Supun : Howards barely breaking even right now * ABC Commie : Wait, is Howard even coherent right now? * arleeshr : "everyone knows" * pointy : jeez Howard just seems lost ... * lauredhel : So much for the predictions of Rudd nerves - Howard seems far more hesitant and anxious * Achenar : Yes, Rudd is really holding his own... even in unrehearsed ansswers * kat : howrd just sounds old * Frank Calabrese : the ABC radio feed is good * SBS Commie (MA) : howard is liking this cause he can play the underdog, well say tomorrow "I will work harder!" * kat : he is a good speaker...rudd * Guest_4336 : The person on the sound mixer is slow in opening microphones * ABC Commie : God, Kevin is NAILING this one. * cityblue : yeah I noticed the tie - its a good change from teh usual conservative garb politicians wear * Harriet Vane : Something other than the standard blue or red. * Hank Reardon : Rudd didn't even have to speak then to get the worm to race to the top. What a croc. * arleeshr : tie good * pointy : the worm is the same colour as his tie * seamus : Loving watching this with the sound off so I only notice the worm! * lauredhel : I like the tie too. * arleeshr : we don't have ch9 reception but they have a ninemsn simulcast... without a worm * Harriet Vane : Randomly, I like Rudd's tie. * seamus : I think the worm is made up of swinging voters at channel 9/ * cityblue : I don't think the comrades at the AMWU would be as partisan as the worm tonight [smiley] * Achenar : arlesshr, it's channel 9 only * lauredhel : Would it be superficial of me to say that Rudd has a far, far more euphonious voice? * Guest_4978 : the worm hated Howard last debate, too * fiztig : interesting that the worm drops when economy is talked about * pointy : the worm must be a union member of AWU- the Australian Worms Union * john ryan : I will look them up on the next swinger site I go on Frank * arleeshr : how come the worm isnt' on the interwebs simulcast? * SBS Commie (MA) : the worm must be part of the DIRT UNION * silk : Frank, I think they are using the other definition of swinging [smiley] * Harriet Vane : The audience is partisan, but the wormers aren't the same as the audience * Guest_2579 : are the wormers political partisans? * Guest_3760 : Howard arguing for handing pots of cash to people and letting them decide what to do with it. - aka doze friendlie Abodigingies! * Frank Calabrese : "allegedly, the worm operators are "swinging voters" * ABC Commie : Good question. And a hard one to answer. * Harriet Vane : That's the audience, isn't it, John? I thought the wormers were undecided voters. * Achenar : Should bring a halt to any govt momentum, if tnothing else * kat : she even soudns like judith lucy * Achenar : Definiately fiz * john ryan : supposed to be 50 50 aint it * blacklight : "Rudds Romping It In' I hope that gets said a lot on the night of nov 24 * silk : Seems there is wormsno loyalty among * Rob : How does the worm work? * fiztig : the worm will make news tomorrow * kat : worm is erally high for rudd low or weven for howard * Guest_4978 : worm through the roof * Guest_2579 : who chose the people for the worm? * John Winston : Rudd's romping it in * Robert : What's the worm doing? * kat : go worm go * Achenar : Channel 9 audience (worm)... really impartial? * lauredhel : worm? * Harriet Vane : Them too. People without financial planners in general, really. * kat : rudd ndid u whack his microphone eraly on * Achenar : LOL * John Winston : oh he's getting sore * Frank Calabrese : "You Decide" * ABC Commie : Kevin goes for class war! * lauredhel : Unless they're black, you mean. * Guest_4336 : Microphone whacks: Howard 2, Rudd 0 * Harriet Vane : lauredhel, unless they're young single mothers. Then we can't trust them. * Amanda : j-ho "in due season" OK I laughed crazy like a rat * pointy : changing tax rates is NOT taxation reform ya knob * lauredhel : wow. Howard arguing for handing pots of cash to people and letting them decide what to do with it. * Guest_2579 : great service to have this session - thank you * John Winston : ease the squeeze, yay! * SBS Commie (MA) : Harriet Vane; FEAR, always * Guest_3760 : checks and balances from a federal govt.....psssssh t * fiztig : 2UE reporter (Sydney radio - same station as John Laws) * Frank Calabrese : Alison Carabine - Southern Cross Radio - 2UE etc * Amanda : ease the squeeze! * Robert : lol * SBS Commie (MA) : the worm is high, i saw him hanging around with the greens before the debate * Harriet Vane : I don't see what the wall to wall Labor problem is. It's logical. Why would you vote against your normal political inclination when you swap levels of govt? * kat : she olooks liek judith lucy * pointy : who the f is she? * lauredhel : What was that about "unions don't give the Liberal Party money so we don't like them"? * fiztig : worm goes up a little bit in positive there * Harriet Vane : I'm one of those union member public servants, so I should know, blacklight [smiley] * john ryan : going to have dinner soon and feed the dogs * ABC Commie : 15 minutes to the "wall to wall" claim * kat : i want to see tehm ask eachotheer questions * Minotaur : Here comes `shore to shore Labor govts' ... * lauredhel : surly is right, surly and unconvinced * fiztig : worm hates Co..Howard * Rob : This is not working for JH. He sounds surly and ungracious. * ABC Commie : No, because the Libs support their BOSSES * john ryan : right but I enjoy this * Frank Calabrese : how's the worm going ? * blacklight : but they give you nasty paper cuts harriet * Solomon : How's the shoulder twitch? * Harriet Vane : The thug thing is hilarious. Public servants are in unions at a higher rate. Your average paper pusher isn't a thug. * Frank Calabrese : John_Ryan - ABC 720 is running the debate live * john ryan : never trust microsoft * Achenar : Rudd dealing well with union scare * Guest_927 : lol, "the underemployed diplomat who speaks chinese" line again * fiztig : good job Uncle Kev!! * silk : Breath Kevin, breath * ABC Commie : DEFEND THE DAMN UNIONS, KEVIN!!! * blacklight : So i take it rudd is doing well.... [smiley] * SBS Commie (MA) : the worm could be running on windows vista and is broken???? * kat : smack down * SBS Commie (MA) : heh * john ryan : any one what The NEWs limited chorus on insiders * fiztig : Rudd's people have been reading the blogs! [smiley] * pointy : Unions Boo!! * Harriet Vane : lauredhel, I think they're just people who are undecided...whic h means people who probably don't give a toss about a lot of the finer details * Minotaur : AHA - Lib staffers and lawyers - knew that'd be the answer to union thugs ... good one. * ABC Commie : SBS: he wants to keep his 6% * kat : ha ha peopel hate lawyers? * SBS Commie (MA) : Bob Brown should have done a nudie run * John Winston : Union scare campaign * fiztig : this will be interesting * Guest_3760 : serious lol at SBS commie * ABC Commie : "Scare quotes" * Guest_1953 : rudd soudns good.... * lauredhel : how do they sample the wormturners? * ABC Commie : OOOH * 22% : lol 22% * Hank Reardon : As soon as they flip to Rudd the worm starts going up before he finishes his first few words. * fiztig : bang! bang!! BANG!! * ABC Commie : YES!!! The 22% rate!!! * Guest_3760 : worm has just knocked a hole in the ozone layer.... * lauredhel : has a PM ever keeled over from worm poisoning at one of these? * Achenar : "On the question of..." hehe common starter from Rudd * SBS Commie (MA) : johns upset he missed bingo night on channel 7 * silk : No, Spears took care of that * blacklight : has a PM been drenched in his own blood in opne of these? * john ryan : has Rudd mentioned which PM well will have in 18 months * ABC Commie : We may see someone cry tonight. * Achenar : Hehe agreed fiztig ,... he looks pissed * SBS Commie (MA) : has a PM ever cried at one of these * Guest_4336 : Red card, number 42 * Guest_1953 : insiders - costerllo said he did lots of work on his garden * fiztig : well, it looks like Grumpy Grampa has turned up tonight * John Winston : If the Australian people are good enough and kind enough etc. * silk : The Insiders this morning * blacklight : the worm is a lemming? * SBS Commie (MA) : The worm goes back to eating shit when costello is mentioned * Minotaur : Worm hates Costello and the Liberal team by looks of things ... * Harriet Vane : I see Costello also announced he'd live in Melbourne, not the Lodge * Rob : God watch that worm dive! * lauredhel : I think Howard is going to cry. * Guest_4978 : worm hates Costello * SBS Commie (MA) : TEAM! * John Winston : the worm deflates when Costello is mentioned * ABC Commie : Fredo ain't gonna succeed nobody. * fiztig : that worm is going to China * Guest_1953 : i'm voting for the worm * blacklight : its 90mins...be patient * Rob : When will they get on to Iraq? * Harriet Vane : He's dealing in truthiness, not truth [smiley] * blacklight : spears is supposed to be runnin this....howards lacky * ABC Commie : ooh. the rodent had a lizard smile! * john ryan : Seem to remember Howard voted against superanuation for all * blacklight : as howard hasnt done anything positive... * silk : Who is meant to be running this?? * John Winston : Costello didnt like Labor's tax policy! * THE WORM : I cant get up when howard talks, im sorry guys * ABC Commie : ah. that took 9 minutes. * Minotaur : Wow ... Howard IS going pretty damn negative ... * Guest_1953 : finacial deregualtion?... what does ur average channel 9 viewer know about that??? * Harriet Vane : I like that: 'He's voted against our reforms! How dare he!' * Frank Calabrese : hmm, has anyone downloaded that "Rudd Bingo Card" from the Libs site ? * Minotaur : The worm's not impressed by the negativity - it goes down every time he picks on Rudd. * john ryan : wonder if the chaser crew will turn up * Harriet Vane : I'm loving the Infinite Cat Project-esque ads myself * Rob : Well the worm's killing Howard. * ABC Commie : dog whistle for the values voters - "belief" * gubbaboy : Rudd is licking his lips like a lizard. I just hope he doesn't pick the wax out of his ears and eat it. * lauredhel : the FIST * blacklight : the worm and Rudd...feelin da love * blacklight : always has john * silk : Its hard to look threatening in fishnets * Guest_1953 : teh worm loves rudd * lauredhel : keep up worm commentary, for us Westerners, please * Harriet Vane : Achenar, I'd say look at Spears when he's asking the question, though. * Frank Calabrese : John, yep * blacklight : oh yea we do too [smiley] * Guest_3760 : alexander downer playing the fat grinning bully behind the principal * john ryan : Hi Frank so the ABC will be broadcasting the count in Perth before the polls have closed * Achenar : Harriet, Rudd is speaking to the audience, which I think is the correct thing to do * Rob : Kevin's coming across as a spinner IMHO. * Frank Calabrese : Yes we have Daylight Savings this time * SG : Britney spears is at the debate? Thought she was in prison... * Harriet Vane : blacklight, ACT starts end of October * blacklight : will itbe daylight savings over there then? * Harriet Vane : KRudd won't look at Spears. Odd. * fiztig : why is Spears asking all the questions? I thought the journalists were going to do that. * Guest_4978 : neat. nice work Kev * Frank Calabrese : none even * Frank Calabrese : John, re Blackout on Election day - there is noe * Achenar : Rudd is pwning * blacklight : election night will be live john * john ryan : wonder what will happen election night with the 2 hr blackout * Harriet Vane : I'm glad he's making the point that the economic boom is nothing to do with JHo but with global conditions * silk : Worm hates Co.. Howard * ABC Commie : Yes! Investment! The Coalition's Achilles Heel! * blacklight : so has Kevin won know ? [smiley] * Minotaur : Worm hates WorkChoices! * blacklight : thats Perth for ya * Harriet Vane : 15 per cent of the private sector workforce...publ ic servants don't count, I guess. * john ryan : can anybody tell me why I can watch it live on Pay but 2 Perth are not showing it till 7 30 how stupid * ABC Commie : Did JH actually *say* anything just then? * blaclight : this commentray is far more entertaining * Hank Reardon : Looks like they rounded up all the local commies to operate the worm * Guest_3760 : footage of costello in audience..... worm plummets * Harriet Vane : For those who have Internode ADSL, btw, the ABC feed isn't meterable * Robert : Here's Nine's live feed: ÇlinkÈ com.au/livestrea ming.aspx?id=307 682 * Harriet Vane : Janette will be waiting in the wings with a cane if he stuffs up [smiley] * Minotaur : Sounds like Speers just asked him to zip it ... LOL * ABC Commie : ROFL * blaclight : has kevin won yet? * fiztig : that fist movement did not come off well - he must have remembered to do it at the last minute * Achenar : All we need now is Milne to get up and push Howard off stage [smiley] * Harriet Vane : I really think harping on the economy, while their supposed one good point, turns more people off. * Rob : Hasn't JH run out of time? * ABC Commie : HE WON'T SHUT UP!!! * Achenar : LOL * glimreaper : I'm here to collect Mr Howard * Harriet Vane : Gretel's outfit would at least be amusing. * ABC Commie : Quick! Get the defibrilator!11 * gubbaboy : Howards new society. Capitalism. Not perfect but better than the scab lifting of Labor. * Guest_4336 : The worm is a 4:3 aspect ratio, whers the 16:9 Worm LOL * Achenar : Worm flatline - how appropriate * Guest_3760 : the worm is dead...flatlinin g * John Winston : its over already lol * Frank Calabrese : YJey should've got Gretel to moderate it, she's ggood at delayed naughty stuff [smiley] * Harriet Vane : I'm trying to get it so I can have both windows visible, but it's not working. I'll have to just listen to Howard and read here * fiztig : Worm is negative negative negative * ABC Commie : New society == slavery. * Rob : Rudd di OK but too much "I will". * Achenar : Worm not good or Howard * Guest_3760 : could you imagine Bush doing this? * Achenar : hehe * ABC Commie : The delay is in case Howard uses any naughty words. * Frank calabrese : Wonderful, live blogging before we get in WA [smiley] * Guest_4978 : mr coward! * Harriet Vane : The ABC online feed is on a few seconds delay * Minotaur : They let Nine have the worm ??? I thought Howard had only agreed on the basis of no worm ... kewl! * Achenar : LOL * fiztig : oh my... Mr. Coward... * Achenar : "Mr Cow... Howard" * Achenar : LOL! * Harriet Vane : Well, the rest of the debate will be the test. Of course the opening statements are rehearsed [smiley] * Achenar : lol channel 9 worm off the scale [smiley] * fiztig : Nine's worm is off the scale in positive * ABC Commie : But nice NLP on the word "act" * ABC Commie : A bit too memorized. * Harriet Vane : Hopefully the rapid blinking will stop when he calms down a little. * Achenar : Rudd is confident and calm * Minotaur : Rudd has now used the word `future' 5 times. * fiztig : oh goody, Spears is starting well and using Fox News' logo of "Fair and Balanced" * Achenar : LOL yes Howard looked uncomfortable.. Rudd looks relaxed (enough) * Minotaur : Holy crap, Laurie Oakes has really lost some weight! * Robert : ABC's online feed has started, but it's Windows Media Player only. Sucks. ÇlinkÈ * ABC Commie : Howard looks like he's wet his pants * Achenar : Finally [smiley] I thought 7:30 would never come [smiley] * Hank Reardon : How many times will we hear tonight that Rudd is an "economic conservative"? * ABC Commie : Ahem, ahem... Testing one two three * Rob : I'll be making a pizza. * John Winston : I've got the Beer Nuts out and all * Habib : Kevni Rudd drinks and smokes, and lends his bum to all the blokes. * John Winston : yeah me too, Rob * Guest_3 : Isnt the worm at the end? * Rob : I'm going to Nine in a minute. I want to see the worm. * John Winston : All Rudd has to do is mention WorkChoices and Howard's shoulder will start to twitch * John Winston : Costello ws a founding member of H.R. Nicholls society * fairfaxer : i hope rudd brings up the big union lie. costello was stuffed on insders today * Rob : I don't buy that 4 minutes to make a decision stuff just then. * gubbaboy : I saw the worm at my polling booth(inner Sydney) I made a near fatal mistake of telling him I may vote Liberal. Well he went off. In the end he slimed me. I read from that encounter that the worm was a Labor voter. * ShowsOn : Howard insisted on Sky because he was pissed that Ray Martin was comparing Labor fundraisers. * Achenar : Haven't missed it Rob * Rob : Yeah but remember they lost the elections, gubbaboy. * Charlie : Any other Poll Bludger regulars here? * gubbaboy : I'll make a prediction now before the debate starts. The worm will endorse Rudd. Just like Latham before and Beazley before that. * Rob : Marion W is better than I expected. * John Winston : I'm interested in seeing how Howard's backflip on Aboriginal's goes under some actual scrutiny * John Winston : Andrew Robb is starting to lose it * gubbaboy : I'll be really interested how Mr. Rudd articulates a better future for Australians. * John Winston : Gotta love those two headed coins (jokes) * Rob : Rudd's going first in case you're not watching Sky. * Rob : Sounds very '70s. * John Winston : Not all, Rob I agree. It's all about the straws * Rob : The union domination thing from Robb is not working, IMHO. * John Winston : Nah Robb slipped it in there pretty quick * Rob : Unionists, wasn't it? * Harriet Vane : Next they'll be telling us there are unionists in the Labor Party! * John Winston : Robb just infored us the Labor party are communists! God I love Sky News lol * fairfaxer : ruddy will slay the evil howardore sloth * Harriet Vane : The bingo card is the height of arrogance * John Winston : Andrew Robb's trying his hardest to frame the debate with his "Rudd is all just bumper sticker's" crap * John Winston : I dont know if other stations have shown th debate in recent times other than Nine? * Amanda : I know ratty doesn't like the thing -- but have other stations ever used the worm? * Rob : I remember Latham won the worm in 2004, but lost the election. Just sayin'.... * John Winston : Amanda, I thought he "requested" that Sky and the ABC not show a version of the worm on condition of them being allowed to show it, I think Nine jumped in at the last minute and thought bugger him? * John Winston : Bruce Hawker's got a gig on the Sky coverage, good stuff. * Amanda : I don't think he banned them. The Worm is a Nine thing. * John Winston : yeah that's right, Rob. Howard banned Sky and the ABC from showing it. * Rob : The "worm" is real time audience response, is that right? * John Winston : I'll be watching the Nine coverage (hanging to see the worm stick the boot into Howard) and will be recording Sky's 'package' purely for educational purposes lol * lauredhel : On Nine. "60 Minutes presents the first great debate between Prime Minister John Howard and Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd in a 90 minute commercial free broadcast." * lauredhel : FTA programme is listing it as being incorporated into 60 Minutes tonight? * John Winston : The debate is being shown on Sky (live), ABC (delayed) and Nine (live I think). Nine was the only one to supposedly go against the PM's wishes by showing a 'worm' * Rob : I think it's quite wrong if it's only available on Sky. * lauredhel : I was looking at the free to air programme. * lauredhel : hang on... we might get it live on Sky! * Rob : Thanks, John. * John Winston : For anyone who cares Sky's coverage starts in about 15 minutes with a one hour preview show. Followed by the hour and a half debate and then a one hour show titled 'The Verdict' which will no doubt tell us how much Howard won by. * John Winston : Yeah Sky NewsÕ only value is to study the mind of the other side! Speers is conservative but pretty professional. The other main political guy Kieran Gilbert doesnÕt even try to hide his support for anything right wing. He was the guy who set out to trip Rudd up with that tax question, was real proud of himself too. * Ptobias : Liveblogging of the GreensÕ forum is starting at ÇlinkÈ * lauredhel : We should get an IRC channel happening. Configurable chatroom activity alerts are my friend. * lauredhel : probably more fun than watching the talking head * lauredhel : No matter, will hang out here * lauredhel : not internode, no! * Ptobias : You donÕt happen to be on Internode? If so, ABC traffic is unmetered. * Robert : Ah, no fun. I guess youÕll be waiting to see the full broadband policies, then, eh? * lauredhel : cheers Robert, IÕm teetering on getting shaped to dialup speed, so streaming video might be beyond the possibilities. * Robert : lauredhel: You can stream it live from the ABC or NineMSN websites, apparently. * Ptobias : The GreensÕ public forum starts at 6 * Ptobias : PM debate starts at 7:30 EST * lauredhel : live chatroom, eh? GÕday folks. WeÕre two hours behind here, so it will be all over bar the shouting by the time I see it live. * Rob : When does it start? Have I missed it? * Robert : Are they? I have to admit IÕd never heard of the host, David Speers, until today. WhatÕs he like? * John Winston : He inisisted it go to Sky because theyÕre as biased as all hell * Vee : I think anything on pay tv is evil until pay tv contracts are negotiable on an individual basis. Not that I know anything about Sky. * Robert : So, what do we think about the debate going to Sky? Why did Howard insist on it? * Amanda : yo * Ptobias : Drink when Rudd asks a question before answering it * Robert : Drink when Howard says "unionist" or when Rudd says "fresh". * Sam Clifford : You have to finish your drink when Rudd echoes HowardÕs policies * Ptobias : Any predictions should be phrased in the form of "You have to drink when É" - e.g., from tigtog, "You have to drink when a candidate says Ôaspiration[al] Ô" * Sam Clifford : Rudd should be debating Costello * Robert : ABC is offering live streaming, but I canÕt work out what format or whether itÕs embeddable. IÕm looking elsewhere, too * Vee : If someone is offering Live streaming, it should be possible shouldnÕt it? * Robert : If only we could embed a streaming video of the debate, so that you could watch it live and comment from the same page. * Robert : It does indeed seem to be working. I can see your comments, and I didnÕt need to refresh my page. * tigtog : Seems to be working, Rob. * tigtog : testing testing 123. My prediction is that at some time tonight a PM candidate will utter the word "aspiraition[al ]. * Robert : And will Rudd pick his ear? * Robert : Will Howard announce a new tax rebate for private school fees? * Robert : Welcome to LPÕs "Great Debate" chatroom!