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19 responses to “When we don’t even get “he said, she said” reporting”

  1. Alison

    That, in a nutshell, brothers and sisters, is the “story” of 7.30 these days. I can add no more.

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  3. Terangeree

    Could it be that “7.30” (without the “report”) uses this video as a training aid now? 😉

  4. David Irving (no relation)

    Yeah, I wondered about that report myself. 10% added to my online purchases wouldn’t make any difference, because they’d still be cheaper.

  5. tssk

    And not only would they be cheaper there would be more choice.

    I only resort to buying books, movies and video games online when I can’t buy the specific title down under. I suspect many others are in the same boat.

    Of course the Australian retailer would love it if we could turn back time to before the internet. “Don’t carry the title you want? Tough luck, you can buy from our selection instead.”

    Stupidly enough I will still buy local if the option is there despite the price being double.

  6. Chris

    tssk @ 5 – in my experience bookshops were generally pretty good about ordering in books if they didn’t stock them. Took forever though (months!) and was a huge problem when you needed a technical book quickly. No more price gouging on low volume titles anymore either.

    DI @ 4 – the retailers are totally missing the point. Not only is the sticker price cheaper, but its often more convenient. Online shops are open when I want to shop, not just when the brick and mortar ones decide they want to open (9-5 shopping hours just don’t cut it anymore) and as tssk mentioned the range is much better. Its also a lot easier to price compare and read reviews. And postage is partially offset by reduced transport costs to and from the shops too as well as saving a bunch of time travelling to and from shops and between shops.

    Pretty much anything non urgent I will purchase online now if I can, and I buy from online stores based in Australia as well as overseas ones.

    The 7:30 report has definitely done better stories on the retail lobby/GST complaints in the past.

  7. David Irving (no relation)

    The 7:30 report has definitely done better stories on the retail lobby/GST complaints in the past.

    Not since Red Kezza retired …

  8. billie

    Yes I wonder about the damage online purchases are doing to bricks and mortar retailers. A decade ago I was paid by Coles Myer to do something, not sure what but I had plenty of time to review the retail research papers. Myer had a foray into online retailing, or catalog shopping and we used to frequent an outlet where they moved the stock the mail order customers shunned. I found I returned all the clothes I ordered out of the catalog because they didn’t fit or looked really tacky on the flesh.

    People will buy clothes out of catalogues as a last resort, when it isn’t available in a bricks and mortar store. I notice that Sportsgirl in Chapel St, have pictures of various items for sale, that you can order over your mobile, if you are too impatient to wait until the store is open. Handy as that shop is being renovated.

    I think that retail book sales have been savaged by eBooks and in future you will only buy text books and bibles in book form. Publishers want to lose books because of costs of paper, printing, distribution, warehouse, retail etc An eBook copy is likely to be a single read but your papaerback can last for 30 years and be read by 50 readers.

  9. billie

    He said, she said journalism has been the stock in trade of the scoundrel trying to prove black is white. It was invented by Big Tobacco to silence reports about lung cancer and is being perfected by the COALition who have successfully conned the mainstream media into questioning the veracity of climate change and the government which spends $30 billion on clean coal research while stymying efforts to develop renewable energy industries.

  10. Chris

    billie @ 8 – I buy most of my clothes from the US these days. Cheaper than buying locally though I know what size I need and it saves me a lot of time. I’m not exactly fashion concious though :-) I believe in the US the online clothes stores are setup to exchange easily.

    Textbooks will be ebooks before long and I know a few people who already prefer electronic bibles over paper ones because of the referencing. I wouldn’t be surprised if paperbacks disappear and we end up with just collectible hard covers which you pay a real premium for and ebooks.

    DI – when the report on collecting GST on purchases less than $1000 was first released i thought they covered the issues pretty well. I don’t remember who was in the seat at the time though.

  11. Cuppa

    But the ABC does have a form of “he said, she said” journalism.

    The problem is that the hes and shes are usually drawn from the limited gene pool of: Coalition spinners, IPA pests, News Limited hacks, spokesmen for “business groups” and other right wing unions, and conservative “writers” and “opninionists”.

  12. David Perth

    An example, I bought a specific brand and model of sunglasses from overseas for $110 including credit card surcharge for foreign currency, postage and the risk that entails. These sunglasses were not available for less than $185 dollars locally. Go ahead ABC and Ernst & Young, make my day, charge me 10% GST on the overseas purchase, see if I care. I also bought a watch, some books, ………….

  13. Paul Norton

    Handy, that – because, as anybody with more than a minute’s experience dealing with these kind of industry-funded economic modeling exercises would know, the results depend critically on those assumptions, and when they’re done by a particular interest group, they are usually carefully selected to push the interest group’s case. If you make different assumptions, you get different answers.

    As I never tire of pointing out in relation to modelling of the economic and employment effects of environmental protection measures when the modelling is commissioned by business interests and pro-business state agencies.

  14. FFranklin

    Scrolling across the bottom of the screen on ABC24 yesterday was “report shows 18,000(?) jobs to go in retail”. I’m not 100% percent sure of the 18,000 figure but it was in that ballpark and I’m assuming the report they were referring to is the one mentioned in the post.

  15. Helen

    Ernst & Young? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha…!

  16. Helen

    During the summer I visited our local shoe shop to ask about a new pair of Birkos. I am very attached to a particular style and that wasn’t available in my size. The woman there was so friendly and helpful I said I’d support local business and wait for the shoes to come in instead of buying online.
    Fast forward a couple of months and I returned to the shop. I guess the shop owner had just been in a particularly good mood before. The shoes still weren’t available and the conversation this time was unhelpful and surly.

    I ordered a pair online and got them in less than the estimated time for, of course, less than they would have cost in my plucky heroic little bricks and mortar local store.

    Sorry, Anderson St Yarraville, I am trying to keep you from the shutters but it’s uphill work.

  17. billie

    on the subject of “he said, she said” journalism and the unrelenting right-wing bias of the ABC, from afrankview.net

    I was watching ABC24 when a phone interview with Ita Buttrose concerning the passing of Margaret Whitlam happened.

    One of the first things the interviewer asked (Joe O’Brien I think) was in relation to Margaret Whitlams support for the legalisation of marijuana.

    To Ita’s eternal credit she continued on as she had and ignored the question.

  18. Casablanca

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    Joe O’Brien is a dope (no pun intended).

  19. Rob

    What drives me especially mad, I mean punching the TV/radio mad, is that some ABC journalists take it upon themselves to use the talking points of the opposition when interviewing ministers. This is not appropriate on a number of levels.
    1) It is lazy. Lazy intellectually and just plain, can’t give a rats arse, lazy.
    2) So there are only two sides to a story is there? The Governments and the opposition? I think that if a journo wants to have a gotcha moment or perhaps get to the truth asking the same tired questions again and again but just more shrilly is not going to cut it. Swan, Gillard and Wong are not that dumb. I have even heard them laugh at Fran Kelly on RN Breakfast with some of her regurgitated questions.
    3) A for instance. I have never heard any questions about the NBN along the lines of how is the Government going to sell the NBN? When will it sell it? Why should it sell it? What does this say about private enterprise in Australia that it is too incompetent to tackle (building an NBN) such a task? No instead we get the same dumb arse questions about the cost and could it be done cheaper (opposition talking points).